General DiscussionHow to escape low 4K MMR?

Get good.

Edit: you stopped getting good, so your MMR stopped raising.

Have you tried destroying the enemy ancient?

I believe so

Haven't been succeeding much though :)

Low 4k mmr really is the hardest part in 4k mmr, people there are so dumb

Stop sticking to your patterns

^What the snail said,or change to another pattern

Spam heroes with +55% Winrates?

Spirit breaker spammer lul

Spam your pudge? why not?

Pattern? What?

same i stuck in 4.1-4.3 for like 6 month

The question is how you couldn't escape 4K.

I just play 3 hero on jungle,meme all the time,trolling enemies and manage to get 5K.

Start use your brain to think and put some effort!

Lice tea I'm gonna spam ursa

Put some effort? I get a heartattack after each game bc of how hard I try, team too shit though.
When you lost 100 mmr from 4 teammates who abandoned 4 GAMES IN A ROW, you know I have a shitty situation

Licetea is 🅱️Ery good at doto.

Play tusk like me

Usually destroying the enemy ancient works for me, idk you should try it.

shut your 1 hero pool up man

versatility= stupidity

Jack of all traits; master of none.

The only times where I gained any meaningful jumps in MMR were when I spammed a small handful of heroes.

Versatility doesn't exist

Pretty sure I haven't improved at all ever since I started playing mainly party games and randoming heroes every game

What about people who are versatile and play at 7k level. In that case you would be a master of none in their eyes. Or a semi master of one hero. Lul

just an exception to the rule

almost every 7k player spams only 1 role.

even if they have a hero pool of 20 heroes in that role, they just expanded their starting pool over time

i play in ti rank now, low 4k is still very exciting. they all can play. however their decision making and itemization are sub par.

Dont spam TIER 3 complexity heroes like visage, IO, earth spirit, motherf*cking 4ks dont know what those heroes "do"

@potato marshal is right, you just spam +55% win rate heroes, just spam heroes that require minimal skill like luna, jakiro, and visage

tip 1: buy coaching
tip 2: dont listen to people who have similar mmr as you :)

@blitz, well i am only 300 mmr higher than you, but that was what i experienced from having red days, its better to spam 1 hero

I would say spam a role is good advice.

@Jacked
GL,are you doing with the safelane battlefury build? lilul

Jacked is 4k now??? He is in vhs bracket..

No lice. That's meme party build. I honestly think I can go offlane with ursa and win more games just by destroying their safelane with superior laning skills. But I'll go for the safer option.

@abyss I have been practicing ursa in 4k unranked with my diox smurf

Remember that Matchmaking is luck based, if you get matched with decent players most of the time, your mmr will increase

If you get matched with toxic retards most of the time, then you're fucked

Remember that Matchmaking is luck based, if you get matched with decent players most of the time, your mmr will increase
If you get matched with toxic retards most of the time, then you're fucked

Also to add if your good statistically you got the upper hand due to you having the chance of getting paired with 4 bads while the enemy could have 5 bads.

U realise all players close to 50 or sub 50 will tend to say it's luck based. And it's true. When u are at your exact rating and stuck for a Long time it in fact becomes luck based

I cry everyday when i see my win rate getting closer and closer to 50%, im barely 4.3 right now. From 54% win rate to 50% win rate in a year.

I also cry when i see 4 hero icons marked on mid lane cause i know that its another -25

Example situation in 4k
Player 1: me mid ty
Player 2: Want mid?
Player 1: Yes
Player 2: Ok lets mid together
Me: i'll just play pos 5 and do all warding, please adjust
But they still fucking pick 2 mid heroes. How to win? XD
And lc icon marked on jungle, ez lose again

Lol versatility = stupidity LOL
Oh, qsnake, vaxa, badman only can play less than 3 hero, wow they already got a pro team Kappa

the only way to overcome luck is to git gud

@jacked depends on your role though, if you spam supports, and you try your best, PEOPLE wont listen to you no matter how nice you act and talk, because to 4k and below, they think that support players are noobs because of the low gpm xpm

you can win with suports. but you need SKILL

I have high win rate as pos 5, around 60%+ , but i want pos 4 but i only have around 50% winrate as pos 4.

One thing that i learned from playing 1000 games on shit 4k is THAT you mute toxic players as soon as possible.

Everytime i raise my mmr it happens when i played with a 2~3 hero pool.
No matter the role you're playing people will hear you most of the time if you speak firmly and polite.
This helps you to win more, and try to convince one teammate at the time to play at your calls, almost no one pay attention to general talkins

Hope it will help you.

versatility = stupidity
abed could be a 4 times major winner already then, and wings.gaming couldnt win a TI
also VP could drop out of summit the first day

@ramza, i really wish that was reality but the reality is "me mid or throw" or say please adjust so that we can win, teammate would reply"stfu" 400 gpm and xpm noob

In the begining of the game i try to say to them the way i'll play, after that if i'm doing a good job they strart to be more sucetive to my instruction.
For ex, yesterday i played a game as kotl with an am as carry against a offlaner bb, when i used my first skill point in iluminate instead of mana leak the team start to flame, but we get the first blood because of it, so the team start to listening me.

Proof that there are cancers every game.
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3308506071/chat

In most of the time, I am a pos 5 support and I can tell you, versatility is not a good thing at 2k-4k bracket. I got calibrated at 1.8k solo mmr and jumped to 3.85k in 1 year due to lack of versatility(spammed 4-5 heroes such as rubick, Kotl, Mirana as pos 4, slardar as pos 3-4).