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General DiscussionPeople are getting better at the game?

People are getting better at the game? in General Discussion
G-zooz

    Hi guys, I haven't been playing for 1+ year and i wanted to play dota again. So I played on my 2nd acc to familiarize myself with the current gameplay, and i calibrated in archon bracket. Is it just me or people in that bracket are way better than a few years ago? It feels like I'm playing in high legend - low ancient bracket. I no longer able to win most of my games in that bracket like i used to (The last time i was playing i had ancient medal).

    Btw any tips for the current meta and for a returning player in general?

    I'm sO fUcKInG BaAd

      nope, same as always.

      afk offlane

        Ive always been stuck in 4 k -4.3k range previously in solo queue (reached divine 1 in 3 previous seasons, ~4.7k mmr) and now im stuck in 2.8 k - 3 k (archon) where everyone else also says they dropped from 4 k also

        So I would say yes

        party players)

          Everyone who kept playing improved. If you take a break you fall behind. That's always how it goes.

          Tired of Winstreak

            Nah, its true. Few years ago I used to play in this account for having fun. Now i must quite try hard.

            Sometimes there're smurf and players generally getting better.

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            Grenon7

              I can't survive in ranked, but there is also someone flaming or griefing every time that I've played ranked I feel like ':D I am retreating back into unranked, maybe will find friends to play with

              Apipe

                PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING BETTER. The game creator have made it that way (people the same skill but have lower rank medal) :lick:

                Jacked

                  i used to be ancient, i recently calibrated at herald lol

                  people who say matchmaking is not rigged are all lying

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                  GOKU FINAL FORM

                    the people around 3.6k-4k are worse dogshit than they were before

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                      @Han Yolo aren't you the retard who denied that matchmaking is rigged for years along with that other dipshit who made yt videos and called me crazy and delusional? Get fucked. Btw if anything people got worse, supporting 3k dogs is beyond pointless despite me liking pos 4 as much as pos 3.

                      Jacked

                        i've always said it was rigged mate

                        party players)

                          It's not rigged you guys just belong in your bracket and that's why you are struggling to climb.

                          kiss the tattoos on my neck

                            @sick forced losing streak gaben

                            For how many years is this loser gonna complain about being trash at this game lmaoooo

                            Hatrið mun sigra

                              Which one of the imbeciles are you now

                              Not a loser and not trash, just rigged shit setting up games the moment people get reported for uuh bad words

                              party players)

                                @chat muted cuz 3ks are doggos
                                You realize you can solo win in legend right? I played on my friends legend account and it felt like literal bots. I'm sure me or any divine+ rank can climb from that bracket even playing with just 1 hand. Just accept the fact that you are not good enough and work on yourself instead of making retarded excuses.

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                                low prio master

                                  Yeah true

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                                    @party players) what excuses, shit is rigged. I got to ancient 2 with 55% winrate and all of a sudden I was unable to win once I hit 4250 mmr, having series of absurd losing streaks and tilting here and there. This nonsense has been going on for like 2 years. Also specify that you can climb by playing certain pos 2 heroes and/or solo heroes. I don't like and can't play those, unless we wanna consider axe and some other offlaner solo heroes. Even then the supports I've had have been absolute griefers and imbeciles, the winrates with my best heroes (all pos 3s) all dropped by 5-7-10%, in the same or even a lower bracket.

                                    party players)

                                      @chat muted cuz 3ks are doggos
                                      Stop waiting for ''good'' teammates who do their job because they aren't coming.

                                      Everyone is terrible in that bracket, you have to make the difference in the game. You have to win SOLO no matter how bad your teammates are. If you aren't able to it means you are not good enough. It's as simple as that. You have average performances in your games, if you were better the stats would show it. Try going 25/0 every game like smurfs and see what happens to your mmr.

                                      If you can't play those heroes LEARN them like everyone else had to do. It doesn't matter if you ''don't like them''. You wanna gain mmr or no? If you aren't putting every effort to climb how can you be mad at the system for being rigged? You haven't done your part. Why don't you put in the work to give yourself the edge that everyone else had to do?

                                      People just want things to come easy nowadays and it's pathetic. If you really want to climb you have to put aside what you enjoy and go for what gives results, or just accept that you will be stuck forever.

                                      kiss the tattoos on my neck
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                                        kiss the tattoos on my neck

                                          clown with 10 billion hours in dota cant climb out of 3k means the game is rigged heheh i guess im 10k player cause i climb to 5k with pos 5.

                                          kiss the tattoos on my neck

                                            Rly mind wrecking shit how can it be hard to climb out of 3k i rly don't understand are 3k ppl even trying to climb? I exclusively play dota high twice a week and im 5k spamming Wyvern pos 5 u telling me ur try harding and trying to climb for years and ur still 3k... ur just shit dont even make any excuses UR JUST SHIT simple as that u can't figure out what needs to be done to win in that bracket therefor u belong there.

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                                            Customizerin

                                              I've climbed from archon to legend by random picking (rank roles do not exist before), then from legend to divine using AM lol. One of the most significant factors that help you climb is that you're familiar with every hero, the spell cooldowns, and their needed items to become online, it is ok to not pick them in ranked games just familiarize them. (but when you play AM you just farm and wait for a free kill opportunity so that doesn't really matter, but of course, the efficiency of farming separates a good player from a bad player).
                                              I've played almost every hero in bot matches so I have a rough estimate of their cooldowns and effects such as damages, stun duration, cast range, how big the AOE skill is, and how they combo their skills with other heroes. In short, a large amount of experience is required to climb.

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                                                @kiss the tattoos on my neck first game in low legend 6-18, 52% winrate on the upteenth smurf in low ancient and archon and barks about 5k lmaooo talk about clowns. Doesn't matter how much you repeat your nonsense you worthless inbred hiding behind smurfs. If you doggo are kabir just remember I broke even on one of your smurfs in divine that had 5-6k behavior score lel

                                                @party players) yea I figured and deleted this trash game, the fact that you must learn certain heroes/roles you don't like turns a game into a job and what even is the point of playing then. I did put effort into it and had huge edge, winrate on most played offlaners ranged from 60 to 70% across hundreds of games for each. But being forced to learn some TA, Arc or SS to climb, are we serious?

                                                Feeding in progress

                                                  Agree everyone is improving. Been stuck in herald for a long time but enjoying the game anyways.

                                                  kiss the tattoos on my neck

                                                    3000 mmr player think its game fault u can't get mmr lol i would understand if u are weekend dota player with 1k games but u play sooo much and u still can't learn

                                                    Ad.Goku™(tv/adgoku24)

                                                      @SLQ,
                                                      Returned after almost a year break and I still see you bitching about "rigged matchmaking"
                                                      Also, I literally predicted that you will land in legend/Archon back after you small little lucky streak wins(or boosted games, who knows?)

                                                      Man this is just hilarious. For old times sake "OMEGALUL XD"

                                                      kowareta

                                                        say what u want
                                                        there is no doubt
                                                        this shit is fucking rigged

                                                        Feeding in progress

                                                          It's not a perfect match making formula but I don't feel that its rigged. If you play like pros no way u wouldn't climb to at least Divine over time.

                                                          Tapped for posterity <3

                                                            i mean it takes time but climbing isn't rigged, it just takes a fuckload of time if you only got 51%. In a fighting game or stracraft or even CS it takes 1/10 the time to climb to your actual bracket whereas in dota it takes hundred of hours to get to your real mmr, which is honestly wasted time, be it 1k or 6k

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                                                              @kiss the tattoos on my neck hides behind new accounts, loses in archon and talks about being 5k lmao so kabir is that you? Broke even in divine on your account ha

                                                              @AD.GokU™(tv/adplaysgames) a little lucky streak so little that it was 2k games with 55% winrate all the way to almost 4300 mmr. Interesting. Man I went to check your profile and I'm once again amazed at the audacity you have to expose yourself like this and even make fun of others, bless your heart

                                                              ridwan

                                                                ya, more play more experience in a match. but, do you all have a jobs?

                                                                kiss the tattoos on my neck

                                                                  what arte u talking about are u having schizophrenia episode? I wish my mmr dropped to 3000 so i can speedrun to 4k with pos 3/4 so u can stop typing this nonsense and get good or at least dont blame others

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                                                                    Check your own profile, one of the many you hide behind, you absolute imbecile

                                                                    ScaredyCat

                                                                      Some r getting better, some r worse. As for me, games have been pretty easy coz of the patch n the meta.

                                                                      ridwan

                                                                        kiss the tatoos on my neck, its ok i have lot of time in episodes. and its correct, i am schizofrenia. so you think that what i type is a nonsense. what i ask is, do you all have job? i know your struggle to raise your mmr.

                                                                        chat muted cuz 3ks are do, thats what i always do, check my own profile.
                                                                        scaredy cat its nice to know that the game become easy for you.

                                                                        Die by the sword

                                                                          All it took was one toxic comment and now everybody is angry... :D