melee heroes have a better chance of avoiding splash, because tide bringer cleaves in a cone in front of kunkka.. when you're very close, on top of kunkka, he can miss the splash quite a lot..
so best melee heroes are ursa and mk as they pretty much wreck other melee heroes, other recommendations are heroes which can ignore the splash due to sheer lane sustain and regen, like necro or dragon knight.
Also Necro can punish him so hard. As the others said even if you pick a ranged hero like OD or Necro against him you should always stay in a melee range for 2 reasons:
1.since kunka with a queling blade will have more damage than almost all range heroes, by reducing your distance you can last hit much easier against him.
2.you can avoid his cleave by going behind his creeps when he wants to cleave you! (Or at least make it much harder for him.
After 620 games with Razor I can confidently say that master kunkkas win the mid matchup versus Razor.
Once Kunkka reaches level 6 Razor has to be even more careful ‘crossing the river’ if you know what I mean.
Regards
Gecko
Play aggressively, don't let him near your creeps or he'll fuck you with his tidebringer
Man, gecko I’m a big fan. What you said is gonna get you a lot of hate though. Pls prepare your anus.
Yo John. Just trying to be helpful to correct any misinformation here. The person suggesting Razor has less than 10 games played using Razor.
Kunkka is truly a great mid character up there with SF on a 1 v 1 basis. Razor gets a hard time vs him and good positioning is paramount.
Regards
Gecko
if u are a good razor, why u have below 50% winrate in the most retarded bracket of dota after 620 games?
IVe watched Miracle’s storm vs a 6k kunkka and miracle just raped him and forced him to rage quit.
I guess storm is super good against kunkka.
you can see the full replay on youtube
i feel like necro is good against him, expecially after laning stage cause kunkka is insanely tanky and is super good reaper scythe target.
I like Dusa in the matchup.
I also favor Huskar but it’s actually a god-awful matchup for Huskar and I just always happen to get lucky
lol i mean watching pro games i see razor shit on kunkka. ALso im higher mmr then this dude with like 1500 less games xD. I mean just think about it. How can yo ube scared of kunkka harass when he has 0 damage. Just do the ccnc build where u hold 3 points to hit the jungle at 5, kunkka isnt that broken of a hero, if anything razor is even stronger.
TA doesnt care about splash dmg bc refraction, just have to worry about torrent, but a good kunkka will get some levels in torrent and X to catch you out. if you can get bkb fast, TA will own kunkka
I have never lost a mid against kunka playing DK, i have around 3000 games on 2 diff accounts :). But DK pretty much owns kunka, you can deny everytimes he uses tidebringer and once you get level 6 kunka might kill you only if he has a +1 otherwise you have to be specially retarded to die to a kunka playing dk.
Stop ass raping my man gecko he means well and actually knows what he’s talking about despite his rank
the only to beat decent kunkka is to match with decent MK, Huskar, or Timber, Player.
Special mentioned on
1. DK, you need to buy soul ring so you can spam your Q to reduce his damage. tons of HP regen.
2. Rubick, W fucked him up. and
3. Clinkz of course my favorite mid lane hero.
OD, MK, Ursa works well enough. You'll need great perfection in OD tho.
Get orb of venom phase boots asap should work fine.
If you just want to hold the lanes, tide and necro should be fine too.
Level 25 Kunkka, 400 games 60% win rate. From my perspective, my toughest mid match ups are OD, DK, and Ursa. Those are T1 against Kunkka. Then T2 is Timber, Necro, Viper, MK.
Typically even if I'm countered with one of those picks, I can win the lane off mechanical skill in the mid lane alone. If I play against someone with better mechanical skill then myself, I've historically lost lanes to a few more picks such as Storm, Bounty, Bloodseeker.
Any hero with high armor / high health, high regen, and some way to trade hits with Kunkka effectively can win the lane. OD, Ursa, MK can trade hits w Kunkka and can win because intel stack, swipes stack, and jingu stacks. DK and Timber can win lane from regen and armor, mitigating Kunkka's Tidebringer harass damage. Necro has a bit of both - can trade damage with ranged right clicks and heartstopper, while able to keep high levels of regen.
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Any heroes you wanna recommend in dealing with kunkka? Can't seem to single handle that mf because of its splash. Thanks