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Desolate

    Thoughts?

    I think they are now stronger than Secret , i like them.
    Also, Team Secret is very interesting team now too cant wait watch some big tournament

    Shou

      secret is better for sure
      ace is a rlly good player

      fnatic looks like a jumble of players and idk if theyll work well together

      Desolate

        Puppey and Siractionslacks got married.
        Wow.U can search on internet they have photos
        i mean , i rly feel excited for them or any pro dota player , would like to see Envy wedding he proly gona get some anime asian petite chick

        Desolate

          holy fuck next dota torunament starts 26 october?

          TripleSteal-

            what the rosters are>

            Shou

              Puppey isnt gay, why wud he marry Slacks?
              Kappa

              the fnatic roster is ohaiyo, xcalibur, envy, pieliedie, and dj
              secret is puppey, ace, midone, fata (as offlane), and yapzor

              TripleSteal-

                sounds toxic

                well, any team with EE skudns toxic, but this one in particular

                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                  Fnatic is shit. Xcalibur is a horrible player in my opinion and EE is not the best.

                  Totentanz to The King: M ...

                    Ace is really good yeah, he has a weird obsession with Boots of Travel though.

                    Anomaluna

                      Any team that is captained by their carry or mid and not by either supports or offlane will not go very far.

                      Shou

                        ^not necessarily
                        iceiceice captained for faceless
                        burning captained for dk
                        etc
                        there r other examples but it rlly depends on the experience of the player

                        Anomaluna

                          ^not necessarily
                          iceiceice captained for faceless

                          What position did iceiceice play on Faceless?

                          Shou

                            he played offlane i think, still a core player as opposed to a support
                            i forget there was another example but it escapes me for now

                            Anomaluna

                              Any team that is captained by their carry or mid and not by either supports or offlane will not go very far.

                              either supports or offlane

                              offlane

                              offlane

                              offlane

                              Shou

                                in my defense fL didnt go VERY far but ur right

                                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                  TI3 Alliance was captained by Loda/s4, soooooo

                                  Skim

                                    iceiceice didnt captain

                                    jabz did

                                    Anomaluna

                                      Wikipedia says iceiceice captained dude. Nice new display picture btw.

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                                      Skim

                                        well, liquipedia isnt always correct

                                        they tried different captain and drafters in between, but as soon as jabz switched to support he was back in captain seat
                                        I guess iceiceice was always the leader (he founded the team after all)
                                        but in-game shotcalling etc was jabz'

                                        EDIT: and thanks, im happy abt this profile pic as well!

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                                        Anomaluna

                                          Cool, I didn't know that.

                                          What do you think about Envy being a carry and shotcaller at the same time?

                                          Dire Wolf

                                            EE started as a support I think back in notidehunter days? Anyway I don't think any EE team will go very far, he's just not up to par with other position 1s or 2s. He plays old school farming dota as well which meta isn't as suited for. Yeah team secret won china major 2 years ago with him, but that team was pretty stacked throughout with misery and wee, who went on to start their own team and had pretty good success.

                                            New secret can't really be worse than the old one I guess. Probably a middle of the pack team.

                                            Being carry and captain seems pretty rough. It's hard to watch the whole map and cs/deny in lane whole team. Supports are roaming and thus have down time to look for plays. I feel like even though ppd was captain of the TI winning EG, fear contributed a lot to their drafts and plays from the 2 position.

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                                            Skim

                                              it depends really. there's a reason why supports are usually captains and shotcallers

                                              at the same time though, pretty much every team ive talked to has a similar dynamic in that supports make early game calls and carries usually make lategame calls

                                              but well, EE himself admitted I think that support would be a better carry position, he wanted to support for DC after all before joining Fnatic. I think his style can still work, but I think its generally more difficult to captain as a carry

                                              chicken spook,,,,

                                                DJ+4 tbh