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J-Man

    @Sexy lamb. I agree 100%. Hell I got 4 reports cause a game went south and I was the only one trying to defend as techies.

    This mindset that "techies = shit must report" is fucking cancer. It's a meme that is literally gone way to far into dota 2.

    Optimus Drip

      @hbnn true, i dont know why anyone would mine first anymore, blast off does way better level 1

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        Optimus Drip

          @neko gamer soul.
          I do get reported on occasion, espcially the closer i get to 4k, i have never gotten close to low prio even though i spam him though. I play well enought that people realize its not my fault when we lose. Actually, i get reported by enemy usually... because waaa i lost lane/game to techies.

          Optimus Drip

            1.the proximity mines give 50 gold dude. 50. they take 2 seconds to activate and 1.75 to prime. they ding when u get in the area of them

            2. while techies can support...... no

            3. cm can give mana to the whole team the whole game passively. name one other support who can do this
            Hint: no other support can do this

            You can't use that logic in an argument/discussion, well, you can, but it makes u look like you need a waambulance

            EDIT: i guess if u play pugna as a support he can one shot creep waves, kotl can.
            EDIT EDIT: tell u what, half the damage and give the activation time way less time. ill make a deal
            TRIPLE EDIT MY GOD IM ON A STREAK: ur 7k and cant hit a god dam prox in the middle of a fight? im right under 4k and people do it all the time. Surely a big mmr like u can handle get free gold? its a stationary jug ward basiclly.

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            J-Man

              On a side note, here's a list of things that some supports can do that other's can't:

              AA: Ice Blast, negates Health Regen

              Treant: A heal that heals Towers and buildings.

              Bounty Hunter: Track give's bonus gold

              Chen: Global Heal

              Dazzle: Can prevent heroes from dropping to 0 HP.

              ---- Axe: Can certain kill heroes within HP threshold no matter what

              IO: Damage resistance, heal via tether, can global gank with another hero and come back

              Kotl: Can teleport anyone on the map back to kotl's location

              Jakiro: Can slow the attack speed of towers with a spell with a 4 second cooldown.

              Omniknight: Huge AOE Physical Damage immmunity, with scepter global AND effects buildings.

              Oracle: Prevent's death via ultimate for 5 seconds and increases healing while under the ultimate's effect.

              Phoenix: Huge fuck off Egg that you have to destroy to kill phoenix on the inside, otherwise skills refresh.

              Techies: Places mines on the map you have to watch out for, but can be destroyed

              WD: Malediction. Nuff said.

              So, is it okay for all these heroes to be different but not techies?

              lost in the sauce

                ^^The 7k mmr player has spoken (Kygo), so st.fu everyone.... nothing you say matters now

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                Optimus Drip

                  "ur 7k and cant hit a god dam prox in the middle of a fight? im right under 4k and people do it all the time. Surely a big mmr like u can handle get free gold? its a stationary jug ward basiclly." hell at 4.5k or higher it take a lot of fucking work to make techies viable

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                  arin

                    people in 4k dont play dota though
                    doubt it's amy different even below that

                    arin

                      i wish that this forum was good for anything else than just memeing
                      every normal discussion ruined by 2ks who know how exactly should this game be played

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                      J-Man

                        people in 4k dont play dota though
                        doubt it's amy different even below that

                        Oh I'm sorry. Do we not farm creeps to items for gold? Do we not engage in teamfights given our pool of heroes?

                        Do we not destroy the ancient? I want to see this Dota you guys play in 4k+

                        arin

                          Do we not farm creeps to items for gold?

                          no
                          Do we not engage in teamfights given our pool of heroes?

                          no

                          I want to see this Dota you guys play in 4k+

                          same shit

                          Optimus Drip

                            While true to a certain extent, im not pulling this stuff outa my ass., sides, you arnt even that much higher than me.

                            J-Man

                              Oh boy I made an error my bad. I meant to say "Do we not farm creeps for gold to get items?"

                              And if it's the same shit, then how come you stated it's different?

                              In higher skill it's fundamentally different true, but in the end in all skill levels it's still the same game. Destroy the enemy ancient.

                              arin

                                people are just a little better at not being afk, that's all

                                Optimus Drip

                                  Meh, we are off topic, the thread is sorta about techies, and how he is the best hero in dota.

                                  Optimus Drip

                                    using "people in 4k dont play dota though
                                    doubt it's amy different even below that"

                                    is not a valid arguement for techies should be removed from dota.

                                    J-Man

                                      Fair enough. But for me, Phoenix is the best hero in dota for me, but to each their own.

                                      The "Elitist" are pretty much done. They disregard our discussion and retort to their childish ways.

                                      A litteral "Fuck you and your proof and your reasoning, my way is the only right way and I won't see any other way!"

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                                      arin

                                        but it's a valid argument for having an option to block sub 5ks from threads

                                        Optimus Drip

                                          so stop posting?

                                          Optimus Drip

                                            9 hours ago
                                            LAST MATCH
                                            4766
                                            SOLO MMR
                                            4095
                                            PARTY MMR
                                            2,781-2,462-58
                                            RECORD
                                            52.46%
                                            WIN RATE

                                            Tard, i can read your profile-.- at least say 4.5k to look somewhat smart

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                                            J-Man

                                              https://dota.rgp.io/mmr/

                                              So you want to block pretty much 90% of people talking so you guys gave your own top hat monocle high MMR society bigotry?

                                              Okay then.....

                                              arin

                                                wow bamboozled again

                                                i have reasons for not being >5k but that's irrelevant

                                                if you think that i couldn't bear not being allowed to post into certain threads where i wouldnt have to dig through 100 posts full of shit to find one with a really good advice then you're a fucking moron

                                                arin

                                                  So you want to block pretty much 90% of people talking so you guys gave your own top hat monocle high MMR society bigotry?

                                                  i'd definitely make it an option for op to set up a minimal mmr to be able to post

                                                  Optimus Drip

                                                    I also have reasons for being 5k, but don't worry its irrelevant to this techies discussion:D:D If you want good advice don't look on dotabuff forums.

                                                    arin

                                                      ?????????????????

                                                      J-Man

                                                        Then what about the lower skill people coming to ask for advice?

                                                        Oh wait, dota mentality. If they're asking for help, clearly they're moronic and convince them to kill themselves.

                                                        Optimus Drip

                                                          I'm sorry maybe this discussion is going over your head. Let me break it down slower for you: TECHIES=AWESOME
                                                          We are not talking about mmr's here unless the brackets in which techies is playing

                                                          ねずみ

                                                            J-Man

                                                              I think valve needs to figure out a way to make a hero like techies that changes the way you have to play.

                                                              Oh wait, they have a 100 different heroes to do that as well. Silly me.

                                                              ねずみ

                                                                Optimus Drip

                                                                  Am I a stallion chicken? that is, however, very relevant to this post.

                                                                  Emiya

                                                                    i usually don't enjoy playing a 60++ min gaming because someone enjoy minesweeper on dota map , i play teachis occasionally and i swear to god i feel like i deserve to be reported every game i pick him , why shall any team contribute so much resources to chase a support around the map and being always under mental pressure by just moving around the map ; if they somehow rework his stupid high ground defense that will force players to learn how to actually be present in teamfights and and try to win the game just like any other hero

                                                                    ねずみ

                                                                      arin

                                                                        alright ur insanely fucking stupid good bye

                                                                        ねずみ

                                                                          Optimus Drip

                                                                            Then we resort to insults, Thumbs up man! you got me! that wins your point!woo

                                                                            ねずみ

                                                                              HBNN

                                                                                I better be off playing chess with a pigeon rather than continue watching what's left of this show.

                                                                                Edit: nvm, the pigeon shit all over the board so I think I will come back to watch a discussion again.

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                                                                                ねずみ

                                                                                  Optimus Drip

                                                                                    dude, the cat looks like it has glued on fish eyes. That picture is actually hilarious the longer you stare at it.

                                                                                    Jacked

                                                                                      Every hero has their qwerks and such.

                                                                                      i couldn't disagree more. the entire reason why people dislike techies, is because his qwerk changes the game more than any other hero. that's the key difference.

                                                                                      it's like if i created a hero who by his very existence give the ancient invulnerability until 60 min but no other skill. let's say u even carefully balance the hero and call it his own "qwerk". let's say he maintains a 50% winrate. but you just change the fucking game so much it's not fun to play in a match with the hero in it. if you still think "Yea every hero has his qwerks" and you dont pay attention to what the perimeters of the games actually are, then all you're arguing for is a very philosophical direction for how a game like dota should be.

                                                                                      well all i can say is fuck you if you support such a useless and pointless philosophy for dota. there's no arguing with you on that.

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                                                                                      Optimus Drip

                                                                                        Literally, people are playing him wrong if that's all techies has to offer. His high ground is amazing, yes, but his push and team fight are pretty good too. To counter him? prox mines are free money early game, and get some freaking bkbs and maybe a few blink dagger and just run through the bombs.

                                                                                        Jacked

                                                                                          or let's just continue creating retarded heroes but balance it so the game is not fun. let's see. what if i made a hero where his ultimate is that you can only use it 30 mins into the game, and u can only use it once where u remove all 5 heroes from the enemy team and u have to end the game in 5 mins or you lose.

                                                                                          how about something stupid like that, but we balance the hero so your team has to 4 v 5 for 30 mins in order to get a free win.

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                                                                                          Jacked

                                                                                            i dono i could keep thinking about stupid hero concepts that spoil the game, but you could balance it and say its just a hero qwerk. what a dumb fucking comment,.

                                                                                            the whole fucking point is not whether techies can be countered or not, or if he is balanced or not. it's his concept that is annoying and unfun to play with and should exist in a different game.

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                                                                                            HBNN

                                                                                              You still remember that Gambler?

                                                                                              Optimus Drip

                                                                                                Again, bad playstyles. honestly, techies change the game about as much as brood mother. What a baby people are with techies. he stalls the game on average an extra ten minutes, maybe 15.
                                                                                                Storm is annoying the entire game, brood is annoying the entire game , ember is annoying the entire game..... bad arguments. It might as well be a meme. Learn to play against him, or don't.

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                                                                                                Jacked

                                                                                                  ^well you can argue that a lot of heroes have very unique skillsets that are borderline similar to techies that should be removed. maybe broodmother is one of thsoe heroes. but shes still not as bad.

                                                                                                  Optimus Drip

                                                                                                    I mean, I personally hate meta driven games, off picks like techies/brood give the game some variety in like 5% of games. Saying they should be removed is actually just asking for league of legends.

                                                                                                    Optimus Drip

                                                                                                      I hate playing against spectre and naga siren, but hey , i am glad they are in the game because they contribute to the roster is their own unique ways. I absolutely hate dealing with storm, but his kit is unique. If u think techies is in a class by himself thats just stupid. There are a ton of heroes with crazy highground defense. Techies concept is absolutely amazing and i hope we get more heroes that change the game.