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DC.MASON

    i thought double damage from bash inside chrono got removed?

    Shou

      I shud just spam void considering how much I win with this hero

      casual gamer

        6.88 never forget

        Shou

          I remember me some good old offlane void times

          Szczeniarz Brzeczyszcyski

            Midas legion best legion.

            DC.MASON

              games against good pango are pointless
              i dont understand how the fuck does icefrog ignore that hero even after 7.08

              Jacked

                Low winrate on pango

                Jacked

                  Annoying to play against doesn't mean good

                  DC.MASON

                    nothing you say has any relevance

                    JDF8

                      Jacked

                        L u l did I accidentally trigger u again.

                        bearcat0611

                          u can't imagine the cancer until you play against a tinker and a techies booster in the same match.

                          DC.MASON

                            not a single winnable game before and after low prio

                            DC.MASON

                              winning my lane doesnt do jackshit
                              trying to coordinate my team doesnt do jackshit

                              mb i should stop queuing during off hours, one would think that people might be actually a bit normal - they're probably less toxic than normal queue times but they're incredibly low skilled

                              Potato Marshal

                                This is now the official "Forever Ancient Club". Blue stars not welcome here.

                                Shou

                                  archon = ancient confirmed btw

                                  Shou

                                    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3731542110
                                    casual sub 10 min blink with wand tranqs
                                    jesus ive never played a game this easy

                                    Feachairu

                                      may i join the forever ancient club?
                                      pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                                      DC.MASON

                                        may i join the forever ancient club?
                                        pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                                        welcome

                                        Celine

                                          hello eternal anchor player here

                                          Chiwa

                                            3k ancient player here q:^)

                                            inx4c

                                              offlane is the most fun role in the game :o
                                              run in -> die to 3 -> repeat -> keep 3 enemies shackled to you like dogs, still get xp -> mid and safelane are winning coz theyre playing 4v2

                                              DC.MASON

                                                how does that work
                                                when i play 1v3 mid my other two lanes miraculously lose anyway

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                                                Shou

                                                  How viable is axe

                                                  casual gamer

                                                    47.6% viable

                                                    DC.MASON

                                                      i wish valve brought back the creep spawns on 0:30

                                                      having one pos 5 and one roamer in 95% games is moronic

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                                                      Shou

                                                        ive concluded axe is viable against retards

                                                        Jacked

                                                          Axe always had higher winrate in lower brackets

                                                          Feachairu

                                                            i thank you for the welcome

                                                            Bungmangler

                                                              https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3734736491

                                                              offlane DK , decides to go 0-12 at like the 10 min mark.
                                                              IT should be noted that he picked DK into an and tusk ET, razor came next.
                                                              needless to say he just kept going solo to lanes and feeding, repeatedly.
                                                              Pushed a bunch and said not a single word the entire time. would also go solo lane and just push. basically it was a 4v5 the entire game.

                                                              He did enjoy spamming pings from time to time.

                                                              Well we won, 1-20 DK. At the end of the game, he said " I made space for us to win"
                                                              End of the day, I suppose he was better then an AFK jungler, but still it was tilt worthy.

                                                              We won, he got 4 reports.... everygame is winnable!

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                                                              Bungmangler

                                                                Great start to the new patch by going 0-4.
                                                                I would say that I sucked in 3 of out 4 of the matches and was a main contributing factor to why our team lost for at least 2 of those.

                                                                I just cant win games with LC or doom. I just cant effectively play those heros in the offlane :(

                                                                not arin

                                                                  i can relate
                                                                  i'd rather play lich 10 games in a row than playing offlane once

                                                                  Celine

                                                                    wish I have the autism to just play void like 50 games in a row

                                                                    not arin

                                                                      i imagine that it would give you like +600 mmr though

                                                                      Potato Marshal

                                                                        This is now the official "Forever Ancient Club". Blue stars not welcome here.

                                                                        Nvm, everybody is welcome here, DB is all inclusion, diversity and all that junk.

                                                                        Jacked

                                                                          Forever divine

                                                                          DC.MASON

                                                                            how do i play tinker vs spectre

                                                                            casual gamer

                                                                              buy hex fast and hex the illusion

                                                                              before that do ur best to rearm blink away

                                                                              if you fuck up rearm blink and he doesnt have manta justl aser tp away

                                                                              Shou

                                                                                What do you do when u r losing as sniper but ur the highest networth, u want to def hg but ur whole fucking team just keeps getting baited and running out of the hg and dying.
                                                                                Also what do u do against an Abaddon with blademail octarine radiance and aegis, the man had 2 lives, a 25 second CD, and a blademail he cud pop whenever he was getting focused. He just wouldn't die.

                                                                                casual gamer

                                                                                  u either commit to a fight with ur team if u cant defend hg if the baited heroes die, or you just stick hg if they have bb or you have teammates that will live (tinker type shit, techis ww u know what heroes im talking about). you should really try to not make it get to that point though

                                                                                  abaddons ridiculous but in general ur best bet is to wear him down slowly then pop his ult and focus him only after ult/bm. ideally u can kill him right after he respawns before he has cds up. ur best bet for this is playing od/slark or at least long range damage that doesnt need to commit, but as before this is a really shitty no-win situation.

                                                                                  ofc if you have break and hex or silence you can get through ult that way but ull have to deal with it on the second life anyway. i dont think ignoring a max level abaddon with rad is a winning play unless you can kill someone REALLY important or guarantee put him out of the fight for a long time with imprison or chrono or bane sleep

                                                                                  bonus points if abaddon has blink and is thus literally impossible to punish for any variety of garbage positioning

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                                                                                  Shou

                                                                                    ^i was a sniper
                                                                                    We cudve defended hg and our towers if people actually pushed out lanes, smth like a blink wk, but im a sniper against a pudge, I can't walk out that far without dying.
                                                                                    We lost too many towers for free, I cudnt show up to fights when I needed too, and these people left hg where we cud defend with a good echo and sniper shit to fight outside for no reason.
                                                                                    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3741324875

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                                                                                    casual gamer

                                                                                      u can push lanes out with shrapnel as long as you don't actually show (night ideally) i think you can get pretty far out. smoke optional but it's very possible to die in dumb ways if you walk over a bad ward

                                                                                      you can tell ur teammates to stay hg or ping back or w/e but there really is a limit to how much you can influence behavior

                                                                                      but yeah a lot of the time if ur looking at the lategame and saying "this isnt very winnable" ur best bet was using a tp at 6 minutes or some shit and it wouldve changed the whole match

                                                                                      DC.MASON

                                                                                        buy hex fast and hex the illusion

                                                                                        before that do ur best to rearm blink away

                                                                                        if you fuck up rearm blink and he doesnt have manta justl aser tp away


                                                                                        last two spectres i played against built straight manta as first big item, when enemy spec in my last game was like 5 1 at 10 mins then the game was unwinnable i suppose, at least from my own perspective? (although undoubtedly i've done far too many mistakes)

                                                                                        or just play super passively but i feel like that's a way to lose anyway

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                                                                                        casual gamer

                                                                                          basically like i said if u dont get the rearm blink u just die lul

                                                                                          sometimes u can walk it off if teams nearby or get the real one with laser but usually its do or die for rearm blink if they rushed manta sadly

                                                                                          u could buy glimmer ghost or force optionally. had jenkins go for glimmer before blink which was hilarious but didnt look like it worked too well

                                                                                          chicken spook,,,,

                                                                                            gotta love your teammates first picking am and invoker, then followed with PA

                                                                                            casual gamer

                                                                                              the pa picker is a selfless team player who removed a counterpick and took the bullet for her two teammates

                                                                                              Shou

                                                                                                Roaming pa PogChamp