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Jacked

    the trick to not having to play with retards, is to gain enough mmr so u never have to see them again.

    DC.MASON

      and i admit i'm godawful at roamers, i tried playing riki, even tried to follow some high mmr players but i generally have no clue what im doing

      DC.MASON

        the trick to not having to play with retards, is to gain enough mmr so u never have to see them again.

        yea also in order to get your first job you need a work experience

        one syllable anglo-saxon

          its ok arin 4k roamers all have no clue what to do

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          Jacked

            roaming is not for ppl with ADHD. u have to be comfortable with doing nothing for long periods

            everytime i play roamer i end up feeding because im not patient enough

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            Coroner

              How about you start being objective? why dont you post games which you won and opponent had idiots equal as you had in your lost games?

              idk, for example https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3210873880 this opponent axe you had and won easly. or this lina https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3211013142.

              If you are going with mentality like look what shit MM is giving me, I am so unlucky, then start posting games in which you played against idiots and won. Then somebody would actually take this thread seriously.

              DC.MASON

                arin 4 hours ago
                also no updates from today's losses because i hold myself 100% responsible for both of them, while i had some very rare smooth wins as well where the game was basically unloseable

                sorry famalam you need to do a little better job in following my blog since i've mentioned this already

                also that was an offlane axe who got btfo'd by me and pudge

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                dioxgamingpro

                  the cake is a lie but I ate it.

                  doc joferlyn simp

                    Why are my teammates so good? I play like shit but I went 8-1

                    Jacked

                      the cake is a lie but I ate it.

                      :thinking:

                      Jacked

                        haffy on a winstreak in 2k17

                        Coroner

                          You named this thread "every game is winnable" ironically and then started posting all these idiots you get, intentions and direction in which this thread will lead was pretty clear. Yet I guarantee if somebody surfs trough your game history he can find exactly the same number of idiots you played against that lost the game for your oposition.

                          Yes, every game is winnable indeed but also every game is lossable equally.

                          Some games you are THAT idiot that somebody raged at, some games there was no idiots at all and you had actually good and balanced game that you won or lost. Some games your team played horrible as collective but won it, or sometimes you and your team played very good but still lost to the team of idiots. Thats how the things work and there is nothing you can do about it.

                          faw

                            Coroner

                            one syllable anglo-saxon

                              hes right though

                              Jacked

                                yea he's kinda right.

                                doc joferlyn simp

                                  yeah you lost this one bud

                                  DC.MASON

                                    Thats how the things work and there is nothing you can do about it.

                                    i can make posts on the internet to attract degenerate redditors like you

                                    You named this thread "every game is winnable" ironically and then started posting all these idiots you get, intentions and direction in which this thread will lead was pretty clear. Yet I guarantee if somebody surfs trough your game history he can find exactly the same number of idiots you played against that lost the game for your oposition.
                                    Yes, every game is winnable indeed but also every game is lossable equally.

                                    so you're basically saying that valve starts putting bigger and bigger retards in your team once it recognizes a winning streak in order to force a 50% win chance for both teams
                                    that's what i'm proving by this thread

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                                    Stark

                                      Go protect Eren or something.

                                      DC.MASON

                                        eren got taken away somewhere towards 6k

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                                        DC.MASON


                                          punished for winning too much once again

                                          one syllable anglo-saxon

                                            wow fuck this dude who accidentally pressed bkb!
                                            that surely haven't ever happened to me!

                                            Jacked

                                              i think thats meant to show that the carry is the lowest lvl. what on earth happened that game

                                              DC.MASON

                                                it wasnt about bkb, that's just a cherry on the top

                                                DC.MASON

                                                  i alone pushed all the 6 towers on the dire side of the map
                                                  my team is afk farming for entire game and yet they're constantly dying and being completely useless as usual

                                                  DC.MASON


                                                    followed by this

                                                    Planeskeeper

                                                      Afk lich?

                                                      Jacked

                                                        your mindset in a game is actually super important. you could see every little thing that goes wrong from min 0 as the end of the world, or you could actually try to look further down the road 10-15-20 mins ahead, and see how many times those little actions/mistakes actually mattered.

                                                        it is something im learning to do as well whenever i start feeling extremely negative and toxic when we start losing momentum and map control and forced to play passively or defensively. no one likes that feeling. but that's actually a big part of dota. its not all about being on the offensive every game. and im learning to accept those scenarios and find ways to deal with it.

                                                        but if u have the mindset that you're defeated because of whatever trivial feed happened in early game, then you're gonna lose more of those games that were at least marginally winnable.

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                                                        Jacked

                                                          more importantly, the negativity affects your ability to think more creatively in those situations. you'd miss more opportunities because of it

                                                          DC.MASON

                                                            i think that for your bracket, you should start by trying to play with at least one of your arms instead of legs or ass but thanks for your insight anyway
                                                            i wasn't tilted any of these games, even if i was super mad i was genuinely trying to win

                                                            Jacked

                                                              well you did admit that your mad. thats what i mean. u feel negatively about being placed in what feels like disadvantageous position. its still a mindset issue. and has nothing to do with skillbracket. i duno why u brought that up lol

                                                              Jacked

                                                                in essence, if you can open up your mindset to look at every game differently, and not react negatively, your mind becomes more open to more possibilities and u start to see more solutions. basically this is how u move beyond being pissed at your teammates for 'unwinnable games'.

                                                                every game just becomes a different game with a different puzzle to solve. you start being more objective and games actually start to objectively become winnable (even if u do actually have a smaller chance when your teammates are feeding nonstop)

                                                                DC.MASON

                                                                  DC.MASON


                                                                    totally not shadowpooled

                                                                    DC.MASON

                                                                      into last pick meepo on the enemy side!

                                                                      Aethoeix

                                                                        Try to stop playing solo ranked after 1 loss till the end of the day
                                                                        Just watch the replay instead and go play normal games or party rmm

                                                                        Im pretty sure u get frustrated after losing cos of shitty picks and you become agressive towards your new teammates since the start of the next game

                                                                        DC.MASON

                                                                          meanwhile bristle slightly underestimating solo lycan

                                                                          Aethoeix

                                                                            And u are slightly underestimating meepo?

                                                                            DC.MASON

                                                                              and rubick and clockwerk permanently occupying my mid lane while bounty hunter is too busy with picking invis runes

                                                                              DC.MASON

                                                                                it's ok i got help eventually

                                                                                bounty and pugna came and started contesting my creeps

                                                                                Jacked

                                                                                  you obviously really need some dota psychological help man.

                                                                                  look, you can keep looking at games where your carry glaringly didnt do well, and give yourself an excuse for not improving. or you can look at the bigger picture and assess how your actions might've affected your teammate's gameplay. for every action there's a consequence, or even an opportunity cost for your team.

                                                                                  i can tell u games where i've just plain played bad and caused my team to lose sure. but the most frustrating games were the ones where i played bad, but from MY perspective, my other cores who were doing better in the game were not doing what we needed to do to win the game.

                                                                                  they were just afk farming in safer spots, while i knew that my hero in that game needed to be farmed to win. recognizing that for myself, i found it incredibly frustrating that my teammates were not helping to make more space to allow me to farm, instead they were ALL farming more safely for themselves because of the heroes they had, and i was having a hard time catching up and of course i'd try to farm more dangerously and got caught out alot. so despite them doing seemingly okay, we were still losing. and of course the obvious fault, from their perspective, is the carry who cant get any farm and keeps dyign and falling further behind.

                                                                                  then where it gets really frustrating is because they are doing better, they take a superior stance and start to blame others because apparently dota is not a team game but 5 independent players with 5 independent outcomes who happen to be in the same team. nonsense.

                                                                                  they dont see how their own choice of selfish play could've caused the very unwinnable situation the team was in. i mean if u are farmed but you can't win, why is that? i mean, maybe the enemy team is tightening the pressure, and all you're doing is reacting defensively for yourself so you are safer, and you are not recognizing the win condition in your team is to get x hero farmed? but ppl don't consider the opportunity cost enough. and too many times people assess the state of the game based on their own individual play and the illusion that "i'm not dying, so this game is not on me."

                                                                                  im not saying this is you. but this is just an example of how your own individual outcome in a game can be completely meaningless sometimes. and what u really need is to look at the bigger picture.

                                                                                  Jacked

                                                                                    a narrow mind in dota is game losing. it's what tilt does to you. you start to only see one way to win a game, and then u lose the very flexibility u need to win a game

                                                                                    Aethoeix

                                                                                      45% - ur team worse
                                                                                      45% - ur team better
                                                                                      10% - balanced teams (close games which you need to win to get good)

                                                                                      DC.MASON

                                                                                        delete yourself

                                                                                        Jacked

                                                                                          u literally had a winstreak where u probably got lucky (or maybe u were in the angel pool). and now u have through random chance had worse luck, and u think shadowpooled?

                                                                                          very severe case of confirmation bias and selective memory man lol

                                                                                          DC.MASON

                                                                                            45% - ur team worse
                                                                                            45% - ur team better
                                                                                            10% - balanced teams (close games which you need to win to get good)

                                                                                            that's just plain wrong

                                                                                            DC.MASON

                                                                                              u literally had a winstreak where u probably got lucky (or maybe u were in the angel pool). and now u have through random chance had worse luck, and u think shadowpooled?
                                                                                              very severe case of confirmation bias and selective memory man lol

                                                                                              i got two free win games, rest of them were either instalosses or almost losses if i wouldnt work my ass off and kept the game winnable somehow

                                                                                              DC.MASON

                                                                                                so.. 2 games in 20? wow angel pool confirmed!

                                                                                                faw

                                                                                                  arin u need to realize that ure in high 4k, which is full of cancerous and toxic ppl

                                                                                                  i think 4.6-4.9 = most cancerous bracket, grind through it, pick autistic riki or whatever and u'll be over the hill

                                                                                                  DC.MASON

                                                                                                    :)
                                                                                                    THIS IS COMPLETELY NORMAL GUYS. VERY SELECTIVE MEMORY INDEED