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Dog

    Fokin hell man we nearly didnt see it coming
    https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3193049079

    mr. rabbit

      what does dazzle aghs do anyway

      doc joferlyn simp

        Area Shallow Grave lol. The Weave upgrade was better from what I heard tho

        Potato Marshal

          Aghs Dazzle is way too situational. In order for it to even have any effect, the guy you're graving who's close to dying has to be within 450 units from another ally who's also close to dying within the next 5 seconds.

          SOSLICK

            meepo dazzle combo?

            disgusting weebs

              aghs+lens/aghs/lens/nothing

              Murranji

                Yeah I don't see what the hell he was thinking making this change. I mean if it was an extra effect on top of the increased/decreased weave which it used to give fine. But situations where more than one allied hero within 450 aoe almost dying and others also almost dying at the same time are so limited that the item is honestly probably among the worst aghs upgrade in the game - on par with Lifestealer and gyro level of shit.

                Wraith King aghs has a similar thing - extending hero's time alive, except its by 7 seconds instead of 5 and it's a much bigger aoe and it triggers whenever the hero dies, not just if they happen to be close to the hero which shallow grave is cast upon.

                If it did something like add a second charge or something on a 30 second cooldown that would be an aghs upgrade worth getting. The current version is a waste of gold and space.

                Lokieleven

                  I think it's okay, can be a game changer depending on how good the dazzles positioning is

                  kanra

                    He needs a blink dagger with him too .

                    Shou

                      You know what situation everyone is dying in a small aoe is? Its a situation where u get initiated on as a group, and if dazzle has aghs he can basically save every single one and turn a fight. That being said a support dazzle wud never be able to realistically afford this.

                      FHigh420HighE

                        actually this happened in a game i was playing, where I blinked in as ta, on 4 low hero's after a fight, dazzle aghs graved all of them and I died.

                        Chadzpyre

                          dazzle + has always been a legit combo for ending a game in 20 minutes, idk when you get ags on dazzle, but this could be a decent combo if early flubs.

                          Jacked

                            you know those big combos that kill everyone? yea that's when this works

                            Dog

                              We legit lost fights that we could have otherwise won with just 1 graved enemy hero. 3 of them at a minimum are graved at a time and it seemed that random stack of idiots after losing most of their side of the map decided to 5 man and nearly came back with it

                              Xignum

                                like when you guys survive an RP?yeah that might work

                                Player 345068850

                                  And blackhole^

                                  Dog

                                    ^funny you mentioned that. Im pretty sure it happened in the game I presented at some point.