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General DiscussionCAUTION!!! DON'T PICK SVEN AGAINST AXE

CAUTION!!! DON'T PICK SVEN AGAINST AXE in General Discussion
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    I fucking lost the game because i'm killing myself

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      team blamed me why i'm dying lmao nerf blade mail please

      dunce

        Lc can also be good when warcry is over

        arin

          but it's never over

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            as for LC no problem she's squishy compared to +40 armor call axe

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              I getting back into a scrub now i'm tilting so hard

              NeGo

                I was about to mention LC but yeah you have a point.

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                  we need a nerf on blade mail or +40 armor on axe

                  CUTNPASTE

                    Against LC you just win the duel usually, Axe is a huge issue though as he wastes your precious bkb time and refuses to die.

                    Melt

                      lc still works. casual platemail after blademail, sometimes a talisman of evasion. axe is much worse tho, you are right.

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                        worst sven enemy axe literally shut me down i can't do anything i die after the call ends

                        Jacked

                          There's always only 2 ways to counter axe as a hard hitting carry. Buy manta and hope you have fast reflexes. Buy satanic and hope you have fast reflexes

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                          Dog

                            Press f9 and hope you have fast reflexes

                            bearcat0611

                              or initiate and kill axe before he gets blink call off. Or have someone on your team buy euls or e-blade.

                              TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                                not good enough. stop playing sven

                                Desolate

                                  silver edge is legit

                                  Duster!

                                    map control, picks and team cc.

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                                      how can a silver edge even help against axe... break the helix? can't break bm

                                      Desolate

                                        silver edge make u split push gank solo lanes so u can gank axe isntrad he gank u problem is people shit like u dont do that and only farm lanes like robots or afk

                                        fx

                                          I think you shouldnt pick sven against tree though

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                                            woah that's new to me much more better player than me "I never really think of that" that would I want to say but I did think of that doesn't work in this game SD and Distruptor zoning me so hard

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                                              can't even solo kill

                                              Blurrybob

                                                I thought you would share some very important finding of 7.06 but no, another shitpost. Axe has just gained some deserved buff. His call is complete useless without blink due to its cast time and his own abysmal movespeed. His ult is almost garbage mid->lategame other than countering Dazzle and Oracle. Without proper vision many a leftclick hero gonna melt against axe, ok, but it's not a cause to nerf an item. And there's a very pretty button like navy-radar next to your mini-map, use it often.

                                                arin

                                                  Axe has just gained some deserved buff. His call is complete useless without blink due to its cast time and his own abysmal movespeed. His ult is almost garbage mid->lategame other than countering Dazzle and Oracle.

                                                  please refrain from further posting

                                                  Emon

                                                    deathballing instead of passive farming is still the way to go

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                                                      aside from the farm I got I tried to snowball never in my life gonna sven against axe

                                                      Dire Wolf

                                                        yep I lost 3 games to blade mail last night, fucking nerfed my ass. Look at this one, three goddamn blade mails. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3185954245

                                                        If you cleave someone with blade mail do you take dmg? I am thinking yes. Course if my batrider hadn't been a brain dead mouth breather we probably would've won anyway.

                                                        Blurrybob

                                                          By buying 3 bm's the enemy is risking sinking their money into toilet. Bm lasts for 4.5 seconds, while God's strength lasts for ~*10 that amount. Just make impression that you're gonna hit 'em, retreat until bm is off, re-engage. As simple as that. It's even easier than... um... something easy

                                                          Lokieleven

                                                            Get a heart on sven for ez win. Legit it's extremely hard to die even against an axe with heart

                                                            Dire Wolf

                                                              I got ac cus I'm pretty sure blade mail reflects as same damage type and it's reduced by armor if physical. Might be wrong... I was surviving ok at the end but they were too far ahead at that point.

                                                              evy

                                                                The dps increase from AC is still good enough for you to kys anyway

                                                                dioxgamingpro

                                                                  average normal skill.

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                                                                    I got my HoT on quick buy ready but they're pushing so hard and I need buyback so shit happened

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                                                                      yes bm has 4.5 sec and call has 3.2 ses even if i did survive call I'd be left with 1/5 of my hp

                                                                      Noob

                                                                        Buy 4 rapier 1 daedalus and 1 blink dagger, one lucky crit is enough to force axe get back...XD

                                                                        Chadzpyre

                                                                          sven is generally tanky enough to not rip himself. even when you fully buff up you shouldnt die

                                                                          mentally handicapped

                                                                            working as intended, i see nothing wrong. buy satanic and activate once you see axe running in. harder that it sounds but eh worth a shot right

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                                                                              the thing is before I could by HoT or Satanic he keeps raping me depleting my gold

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                                                                                nikki benz

                                                                                Riguma Borusu

                                                                                  if you have no way around it, just build tanky as fuck, go for items like satanic, heart, AC and you are good

                                                                                  if you are having trouble with axe wrecking your BKB duration or being too squishy to survive if the enemy initiates, it is obvious that you cannot build a bursty sven but go for a tanky as fuck build, even a ridiculously tanky sven build hits hard, but you might struggle against tanky opponents yourself

                                                                                  or you can be a huge fucking troll and build a ghost scepter and hope to god nobody builds a diffusal or has dispels on the enemy team, nothing is more hilarious than watching a blademail axe call your ghost scepter'd sven

                                                                                  of course sven has no slots for this shit so w/e, it can still make it more likely for you to survive than a 6k gold satanic

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                                                                                  Shou

                                                                                    can't break bm

                                                                                    I'm pretty sure silver edge will reduce blademail return damage.
                                                                                    also ur a sven, if u have ac and warcry u have an anus amt of armor, and ur armor will reduce the physical dmg ur taking.
                                                                                    also strength on sven makes him tankier and hit harder, so it works.
                                                                                    the goal is to force axe to initiate on someone other than urself, basically have someone else push on a tower, so that axe calls him only or loses tower. then u can initiate on him when blademail ends or whatever.

                                                                                    LucaManny

                                                                                      ^Pls explain what logic you use for that Daddy
                                                                                      My friend thinking almost same stupid as you
                                                                                      He think bkb will reduce bm damage

                                                                                      Now i think there is some shit logic u use there

                                                                                      Explain

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                                                                                      Xignum

                                                                                        Afaik the dmg reduction is just like​ underlords aura

                                                                                        TheRRogue

                                                                                          The reason is you need to w8 enemy to iniate first as Sven,not going dive and initiate.Of course you will ded

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                                                                                            silver edge does -50% damage reduction but it's only when the first hit out of invis why would I waste too much gold on that to happen when I can dodge a call but HoT, Satanic & Cuiras is the must go item at that game

                                                                                            doc joferlyn simp

                                                                                              Carmilla where did Daddy mention that BKB reduces BM damage?