"3) Haunt is the game's second longest CD skill after Black Hole. "
You might have forgotten that reincarnation cd lasts 240 secs and techies's minefield sign - 360 sec
Alright all your thoughts are ok but the general idea that spectre dead is not. Creep gold changes are prolonging games and turning many of them into late game where spectre feels ultragood
Spectre is good at starting fights with her ult, disables blink, reveals enemy position and you can sometimes get a solo kill on a farming hero.
It's also good for clutch plays like stealing the aegis or killing the cour. But then again, I don't know how to argue.
hey fox you say spectre is dead but I guess you missed the patch notes where jungle respawns are now on a 60 second timer instead of 120 as it was prior to 7.00 (might be wrong about the patch)
once spec secures that radiance its gametime, good support is going to protect that ass and stack those camps FOR A FIELD DAY
I unintentionally went into new patch as spectre and bought new urn radiance and bm heart. All I can say is heart is ridiculous on spectre
Yeah spectre is dead. Sven just got an 8% increase in winrate and now has higher winrate than spectre. Hope you all took advantage of it when I told you to.
my sven lost yesterday :D he could not stop farming, I guess it is too much of an addiction for carries, like serious drugs
Well obviously Farmed slower because of the cd nerf. Didn't realize they nerfed it though. Kek
Well technically she is still good so long as she obtain an items...But for some reason as Sven was now buffed ....he is now stomping in every games...currently the most highest win rate.... but Spec is not dead..
How do you build Spectre now? Especially in <5k games where junglers run amok and thus Urn is an extremely risky pickup due to lack of coordinated ganks. You'd end up being a melee creep that goes red every 2 jungle camps in a lot of games.
I've tried Brown Boots - Vanguard - Magic Wand - Iron Talon - Power Treads - Radiance and so on. I also take go 2-1-2-1 then max Dispersion, and then Desolate to better take Ancient stacks and farm the jungles faster.
now osfrog try to kill her. fuck you osfrog try to kill my beautiful waifu
My spectre can't kill medusa n bristleback at lategame. I know spectre is strong in late game,, but not too much tank
you can just ignore bb and kill his teammates
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3179043266
Lul 3 counters lul
Str talent and abyssal is enough for me usually, maybe you're just careless as fuck when you play spectre, please note that she deals damage in a unique way
@Fox -vanguard wtf. You'll slow down your farm. I thought someone at dotabuff once said pms-urn-diff-radiance actually better. Just throw wand, talon and treads there.
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I think.
1) Urn is less optimal.
2) Other carries outfarm you even more now due to jungle changes.
3) Haunt is the game's second longest CD skill after Black Hole.
4) Radiance deals less damage from your illusions.
5) Creeps meet closer to the offlane tower. Considering Spectre can't gimp ANY offlaner to abuse shrine inactivity, this is another huge nerf.
6) Blademail CD nerf. Minor, but still.