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General DiscussionMelee midlane tip plz

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fx

    How do you 1vs 1 mid if you are melee and your opponent is ranged
    For ex im jugg enemy invo/od/sf

    Shou

      Buy pms, and just trade lh, and manipulate creep equilibrium by aggroing the enemy melee creeps and pulling them to ur ranged creep, forcing the enemy ranged mid closer. Get a good block to force em into the river and lh uphill, and use ur superior base dmg to deny, and trade hits when possible. I think.

      fx

        The biggest problem is when you trade hits. As jugg i use spin to zone him out but as i go back enemy range hero hit me making the trade unfavorable

        fx

          Bumb.

          dead

            hmm really makes you think :thinking:

            casual gamer

              pick ursa and buy oov. click on the enemy hero and click q then take ur hands off the keyboard

              Ave with an internet pfp

                Take aggro .-. To the back of the wave and farm

                eclessia

                  but as i go back enemy range hero hit me

                  Dont draw aggro randomly
                  Its like you probably misclicked sf when you spinned

                  fx

                    So you just play passively.

                    Vertoxity

                      Learn how to draw the aggro, and learn how to do it properely.

                      It'll help you a ton against bad players.

                      Basically up to 4k no one knows how to deal with it.

                      mr. rabbit

                        an extension to the question what do u do if your enemy got a good block so that all the melee creeps are fighting on his highground and im melee against ranged do i just suck it up and take some harass while pulling aggro so i can contest (because pulling aggro at that moment is almost always free harass) or should i just sit back and wait

                        dunce

                          POOR MAN'S SHIELD

                          fx

                            Creep aggro range is fucking 500 how the fuck would you get harrassed. I still cant draw creep aggro with my melee creep attacking his creep

                            mr. rabbit

                              cuz ur enemy is on the highground and u wont be able to use that full 500 because he's fogged?

                              eclessia

                                You better learn aggros
                                I buttfucked the creepwave and you didnt do much on the aggro manipulation when you 1v1d me with that PA storm matchup xd

                                eclessia

                                  Storm lost to PA lul

                                  Sia

                                    watch bsj xd

                                    srsly tho u melee against range u gotta use your advantage which is csing. get more regen + pms, dont trade hits if the foe isnt a retard u gonna regret it. dont aggro so much only once for each wave and try not pushing your melee creeps to his range by not taking their melees too far. get every fuckin lh and deny. let him hit you if you can get a deny. he's probably gonna go for the deny anyway. the result is u outfarm and outlevel him but u got 2 or even 3 sets of tangos. also i would suggest get ur own ward before they gank you

                                    fx

                                      So the answer is to play passively. Some hero like jugg and naga is tanky enough to take harass but hero like ember is quite squishy even with pms. How would you face this? Do you push creepwave with your shield every 2 creepwave and searingchains?

                                      💻

                                        You just outperform them in CS with PMS helping you tank hits. If you aren't feeling safe (night time or incoming ganks) you can just push the lane as fast as possible then clear a camp or two and fly some regen to yourself to lane again.

                                        Chao Vritra

                                          Right click enemy hero (it also works on heroes anywhere on the map but I usually forget/am too lazy) or near enemy hero to draw the aggro of the creeps and bring them towards you. I am actually really surprised at how many people don't do this. I don't really see a whole lot of opponents do it unless I am grouped with 4k friends.

                                          Also it is probably kind of outdated at this point but honestly as rough as it is I really like the 2 hour youtube video of dendi talking about playing mid. I am sure there are hundreds of guides like that but I am dondo fanboy still so

                                          Beks

                                            pms sticks raindrop is a must

                                            doc joferlyn simp

                                              get pms asap, only pull when you know that when the enemy creeps come into your range you can last hit them with one auto attack

                                              focus on your farm and above all dont die. most melee safelaners dont need to win the lane via kills, instead the success in lane depends on your farm. farm --> fat --> win basically

                                              also try to manipulate the creep equilibrium such that the creeps meet in your hg. this will lower your vulnerability to ganks and play on that miss chance. be sure to know how to maintain the ideal equilibrium even when the enemy does his own aggro pulls

                                              just do basic stuff i guess

                                              fx

                                                Pms tango is a good starting item for most melee mid hero right?

                                                Shou

                                                  ^pms and branches/faerie fire with pooled tangoes

                                                  miekuah-P

                                                    -pick tanky mid. Check
                                                    -buy tango and shield. Check
                                                    -buy quelling blade so u can outhit those creeps. Check
                                                    -place ward on mid. Check

                                                    fx

                                                      You have superior damage due to qb right? Do you go bottle boots qb or do you get qp earlier? Except alch