The point of a carry is to be a late game threat but the problem is that no games last till late game right now
most of these heroes will still get out classed by a traditional carry on equal footing in the late game.
Hmm. This could work but you have to remember that with shrines, its slightly harder to " win " lanes. As long as the opponent cant stall long enough if they have some inactive early-mid game carry, you should win. But if they have shit like ursa or jug that can fight relatively earlier, i think it would be abit of an issue as the game progresses.
@TAUPEGOLD and bearcat0611: so what? 5 supports lineup is stronger in the early game as well, you can win fast and if you don't you have very good lategame potential
Yeah so i feel if you ban those carries that can fight early, you will win most games
Most of my games are going an average of 50 mins and ive played about 20 rounds in in 7.0 - They have definetely made supporting more fun though and I can see a Treant nerf coming at some point soon, you can literally annihilate a low hp solo offlaner at lvl 1 with boots and orb.
I can see it, if you draft that way, you will take the early game, get kills, fast lvlup to use your op talents
seemsgood
so basically were advocating for safe lane carry lich and omni. Bounty is much more effective as a roamer than a sit in lane and kill creeps carry. Also a lot of what makes these heroes strong possibilities as carries doesnt come on line until your 20 or 25 at which the enemy carry is probably in a decent spot of his own unless you are really ahead.
Personally, I feel like high ground is allot harder to take then before.
Also the reason to get carries in non-captians mode is to first pick monkey King.
Why? Same as every other patch: someone with strong physical and item scaling to dish out endgame damage and most importantly
PUSH FUKIN TOWERS
omg cooky waving his 7k dick again
y push towers
you can farm the jungle when 5 heroes are dead
stoopid cooky
I was just wondering if Valve intentionally made the patch this way to discourage 5-carry teams?
But there is NO WAY Valve would stop idiots from going 5 man carry
I can't pick shits like weaver, naga, etc without transitioning into a support 90% of the time because of these clowns
But then again I'd rather become the sacrificial lamb than insisting myself to go core with an idiotic creep autoattacking idling "support"
I really laught out (not too loud) when I saw 'This comment was removed by a moderator an hour ago' on saiyans post FeelsGoodMan. :D
I just saw this post not sure what he commend tho, somethings like 1K GPM TA?
Aren't he just make a everyone GPM will decrease tread few days before?
i mean idk why people dont pick lich mid and just snowball out of control
the hero is now super dominant at every stage of the game, crushes laning, gets XP way faster than anyone else, and is basically unkillable with pike+armor and his stupid fucking MS
Idk i am seeing less support now around the 3K mark. Every game no matter what lane or roll I am finding myself doing position 5 purchases just because the backpack has made it easy to swap and ward or carry some of that gear now. Imo it's due to a lot of new players trying the game out.
Jakiro has always been capable of playing a core position. Your example of CDEC's draft is ridiculous because you didn't realize that Jakiro can be a core, and always has been able to play as a core. Another unorthodox core we've seen before is EG drafting Tidehunter Carry for Fear way back when.
I've always wanted to try omni with silver edge mjolnir AC abyssal satanic daedulus + hyperstone and BoTs.
Guess this patch gives me the ideal opportunity
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2849168497
not terrible
you are are very weak lv 14-19 where your nukes have fallen off a little and you haven't picked up +150 damage or your free skadi, then you have 2 massive power spikes. i solo roshed at lvl 20 and raxxed them easily
^ROFL thats just so disgusting... when u introduce talents like that all at once, some are just bound to be broken. gonna take forever to balance this shit
u know u guys don't need to go with these awkward "carry" heroes if u want damage + early game. You have the new venge for that.
% based increased damage. FTW. Get an AC and daedulus and consume hyperstone, and this hero becomes a fkn gattling tank
yup
treads domi dlance silver edge pike or even shit like deso, manta, bkb
any stat item on venge is multiplied by ur crazy perks, wolf aura and vengeance aura. you easily hit for over 400-500 at 25
yeah i forgot the dominater.
So lets go over her talents we'll take to construct the true damge beast
lvl 10: +25 attck speed
lvl 15: +8 all stats
lvl 20: +50 damage
lvl 25: +20% vengeance aura
holy fuck
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just draft mid + offlane + 3 supports that will scale into late game with retarded talents
cdec (or ehome?) drafted a jakiro with pike+deso+daedalus
some of the talents are completely nonsense: lich gets +150 damage and free skadi, omni +100 dmg, bh gets a 1s cd guaranteed crit and +100 dmg
so you just draft 3-5 supports and build rightclick items, go as 5 all game, win early and late. No one needs a guy that just farms
what do you think?