You shit on him with a burst damage early on, before he get vanguard or bkb. Cause his HP will be very low when he go rush deso
lina is strong as an early game nuker. if somehow you can farmed eul, combo will always kill pa
what if he got bkb and nothing to do to touch that madafaking hero?
I wish valve will ban and daedalus for PA. its so fakin imba.
Daed for pa is literally less value than other heroes, cuz it stacks diminishingly with other crits. If pa gets bkb then u just run dude. U shud be far enough away anyway. Once it reaches 5 seconds u won again.
Eventually pa will get Bkb and shit on all these magic nukers w no escape. Don't ever pick Lina to try n burst pa down pls. U will just lose the game.
Also I don't see how tinker counters pa. Feels like there really isn't a direct counter to pa, except a good lineup n play style.
Just pick tanky core heroes + support. Like timber axe Sven, ogre, etc, and maybe get blade mails and ghosts = pa useless
Tinker can just infinte blind. If she uses bkb he can infinte ghost scepter till it runs out. He excels at split pushing which will pressure the pa so she cant be as aggressive early. With aghs aether this hero can keep the whole team blinded for the whole fight. Its not too hard to understand.
PA is a garbage hero, and a shit pick, much like AM.
Very easy to shut down, and since she is so heavily farm reliant, you practically have a free game. Losing to PA should be embarassing.
Well team complications always happen so tbh i dont factor it into counter pick suggestion. Plus tink shud never be with range of pa blink and preferrably not even in vision.
Tinker can easily play around PA.
PA mid? Fuck up her CS with laser. Maybe kill her too when possible.
PA BKB? just wait it out, maybe fuck up his teammates.
PA jumped on you? Positioning. Forcestaff/Dragonpike is good too. Or jump on her with hex
I think You guys are describing situations with a farmed tinker where we"re hoping pa hasn't already raped your entire team.
Tinker gets farm by the virtue of being tinker. And he doesnt need much, just a ghost scepter, BoT, blink, soul ring. Maybe an aether into aghs after that. He reks pa mid by zoning her out. Laser basically destroys pa. Tink with ghost scepter cant even be touched.
How Tinker shits on PA? Try to lane against him as PA.
No direct counter? I sincerely doubt that.
Only if u got far ahead in xp and gold, u can kill a blademail-less axe. I doubt u won't get culled before then.
Also here in NS people just decide "hey they got axe and he got bm and blink, i'll buy mkb and battlefury to fight him."
Good.
no direct counter tbh, or pick heroes with shitton of armors like TB, but still, its not guaranteed rape like sven vs PL or shit
just destroy her after the laning stage
bristleback with bladmail will force pa to get the f*** out also bristle is cancer for pa to lane with early game unless she got good supp ofc u can fix that by good supp for ur self
razor with blade mail + bane enfeeble = 0 damage PA
pop up BM while sucking damage,
it is easy to play PA, but it is even much easier to counter it :)
Try BS, zues, axe, OD (with hex ofc). Even silly support like silencer destroys her early game.
I found Medusa with just Linkens and MKB is pretty effective vs PA. Obviously you need your team to not completely lose before 20 minutes but once you have those two items PA isn't really threat to you. You can even lane against her with Mystic Snake spam.
The most important thing is to harass her out at level 1. That range dagger is garbage, just autoattack her out of the lane before she picks up evasion if you are rightclick based hero.
What about oracle?
Disarm her early game, then save gold (farm the range creep with purifying flames) if she gets bkb to counter her with ghost scepter. That would work with kinda every carry.
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The madafaking smurfers keeps spamming deso build.
How can I counter them?