General DiscussionBull shit heros to last hit with?

try techies

edit: btw it really is not the hardest, especially when you get to play some games with it, you know that techies is very hard to cs but not impossible when not pressured

Who is QOP of pain?

Arc warden and techies

i miss the first creep in the game like 70% of the time regardless of any carry hero xd

For me it's Weaver

clinkz and tinker are considered good lashitters..
try drow razor gyro

razor is annoying because the damage tics a half second after the animation

Weaver and drow due to low speed of attack animation and mirana due to low speed of projectile

weaver isnt that bad especially once you have one level of geminite

Bat CS is ez

clinkz is super bad at lh because his animation is complete garbage and he has 40 base dmg
searing arrows only make it ok, but it's still worse than any melee qb carry

sniper will also fuck u up if u haven't played him or gyro in a long time

Lina or any melee hero without a quelling blade (<1k shit right?)

Clinkz is by far the worst. And Razor is one of shitty ones IMO. Takes time to adjust to that animation.

Juggernaut and lifestealer is hard to last hit

Even in quelling blade i hardly last hit

Weaver
Clinkz
Bristleback, for some reason
MIrana is hard but once u can practice enough in lobbies youre good to go.

Can't you just shoot searing arrows with Clinkz? It helps me very much personally

bristelback might be hard because his BAT has been increased

Sniper is kind of hard cus his dmg is so low, but his attack is almost instant so you can figure it out.

Drow is ridiculously difficult before level 6. Animation so fucking bad, projectile speed so fucking bad, base dmg is not particularly high. I hate to admit it but I'll often be at like 15 cs by min 5 and hitting level 6. Pretty fucking awful, but at least she catches up ok.

Razor is really weird. His animation isn't exactly slow but when it actually hits doesn't match the animation so you have to practice him a game first.

I also kind of hate PA. Not cus the animation and she's melee, but cus that crit! You'll be trying to push a wave, a creep has full hp so you think you can hit it once or twice and then time the last hit, then BAM first hit crit, your creeps kill it and you miss the cs. And her attack speed blows when you go phase so there's nothing you can do except just wait for your creeps to push wave or pray to rngesus.

Bristle is not hard but his animation didn't change so he hits slightly before the animation appears to hit. You just have to adjust, just like razor. But he's melee so it's easier.

LUL
imo clinkz is the worst unless u are using searing arrows

Razor is shitty cause his animation its broken, it takes 1 tic more to the attack to proc, the hardest melle guy is maybe omni, sometimes his animatiom has the same bug as razor.

I honestly cant last hit for shit with Necrophos even though I've played him a ton. His animation really does feel like an old man throwing some lump of mucus so well done to Valve for making it Lore-friendly at least.

& the easiest is sven , i never miss any cs with him unless im being heavily harassed

jug is insanely easy too his animation is so good

Medusa, idk why

Drow takes a year to wind her shit up

Only weaver and when playing offlane against a good carry, i dont understand the delay for geminate. Everything else is really fine.

Lina when she is flailing her arms around in the air

queen of pain of pain

razors got such a crisp animation, its fun to cs with ghim. Qops got a very nice animation too. Fuck clinkz

i cant fucking last hit with invoker regardless if i get 70 cs in practice lobby in 10 mins i just miss everything during actual game

zeus of course

I cant cs with huskar his animation is fucking stupid >:(

Razor is alright
Clinkz I spam W cuz why not

Drow during lv 1-5 i miss like most of the damn fucking creeps; help me. :/

P. A lol now that I think about it my cs needs werk.

SPIRIT BREAKER :)

Drow took me a lot of lobby practice to get used to. Then it was raping games from that moment on

Razor is easy as fuck for his low damage. his attacks are almost instant.

I swear arc warden is the worst...

shadow fiend before he gets souls

Razor is quite okay, I practiced it in some lobby games and once you get used to it, the little delay makes it even a harder for your enemies to deny :)

Gyro
idk why so hard to get LH with him

Cm cuz my carries always stealing it

clinkz.... and io.

Weaver
Razor
One of those carries that I just can't get 30+ LH in 10 mins

Cmon guys gyro isn't that hard :(
But he's barely even a hero now so outfarming won't do shit rofl

In terms of damage its really difficult to lasthit with sniper or gyro if you're being contested, if not its pretty easy since the animations are very good.
But in terms of animation it has to be jakiro, visage (I never play them so it feels super hard when I get them in ability draft games or whatever), clinkz, dp, weaver and drow have shit animation but you can make it work with some practice as their base damage is decent, soometimes an early gloves of haste can help.

^ also skymage unless u use first skill

Lina and Zeus without spells. 1 sec windup+1sec projectile travel time. so easy to deny against.

IO is the most difficult to make a last hit on.

Screw all those garbage attack animation heroes man.