reaction time, completeness of your knowledge, drafting, game execution, hero pool that you can handle, flexibility, all of that matter.
The difference between 4500mmr and a 3500mmr for example can be non existent, I can vouch to that. The higher u go in mmr the bigger the difference in skill.
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the difference between 4.5k and 3.5k is pretty clear, particularly from the outside of this mmr range.
there are only 2 kinds of ppl who say mmr doesnt matter
1 is the 1ker who doesnt want to imrpove
the other is the 7ker who just rekts everyone
The difference between 4500mmr and a 3500mmr for example can be non existent, I can vouch to that. The higher u go in mmr the bigger the difference in skill.
ayy lmao
except if you want to say that both are shit, that's true
The easiest way to climb is to spam heroes with high win rate in the meta right now, or just those you're comfortable with. I climbed 600 with Leshrac, around 100 with SF. These were 6.84 and 6.85 I think. As for the current meta, I rose 200 in a week with OD. Haven't got much time to grind that much but I believe OD can really get you up there. There are counters for the hero of course but since it's rather underrated among lower level pubs atm, you should be fine.
Depends. For most people it is, but people that are stuck on low solo or party exist. I, for example, play mostly party with my friend who is 3,8k solo. My party MMR atm is 1900 while the solo one is 1450...
^I'm 1.6k party. 2.8k solo, 3.7k solo unranked and around 2k party unranked, beat that
Let me.give a description of all mmrs 1k - these guys don't even know hero skills and item builds properly. 2k - the average mmr of all players is worldwide, if u try to experiment with a new hero Ull probably lose unless there's some super tryhard in ur team.
3k - Here supports know how to ward, a slight better version of dota, the itemization of players is not bad. 4k - Vhs bracket starts here
here. Good decision making, strategy comes into play, counter picking in almost everygame, pretty good communication level, ppl prefer playing only heros of whose mechanics they know of.
5K - real tryhardism starts here, decision making is very important. people know exactly how to play the hero
6k you could find many pros in this bracket, co-ordination dota. Everyone seem to know what their role is, very few mistakes
decision making wins/loses the game.
^all this text actually means nothing, you are just using another set of words to say "average", "good", or "very good"
1k - bad players, 2k - bad players, 3k - bad players, 4k bad players, 5k - bad players, 6k bad players, 7k - waga
Watching 7k player stream yesterday, watching him choje when the enemy mid gets 2 kill advantage.
1k - bad players, 2k - bad players, 3k - bad players, 4k bad players, 5k - bad players, 6k bad players, 7k - waga, 8k - badman
4k-6k is dogshit (atleast 95% of those in there) lmfao you dont want to be in that mmr range.
<- 8k twitch chatter here Can confirm teammates hold me back Kappa
I made a smurf for the potato bracket just to see what it's like, games there are hilarious (-ly long). People will dive to the ends of the earth to get a kill. It's not even tunnel vision at that point it's more like if I don't get this kill gold my kids will starve to death on christmas.
@SUPER BEAVER, which heroes are the counters to OD that are underrated among low level pubs (I am 2k)? :3
^you constantly check MMR of people you play with and against, it'll give you a good estimate, if your unranked is around 3000 it's very unusual to always play with/against ranked 2ks and 4ks, no? Also, I just recently broke into VHS @ solo unranked so I know its around 3.7-8k
@Quinkerros, I'm saying OD itself is rather underrated since people don't realize his potential but if you want solid counters I'd say pugna's nether ward and nyx's mana burn. Nether ward goes through bkb in team fights and nyx's vendetta into impale + mana burn can kill OD in the early ganking phase to delay his item progression.
what a nice thread we got here you guysssss
@waga was ur smurf named D E A T H
or something?
played with u with my smurf a month ago i think
There are 1-7k's and they're cut above the rest 8k's who are either Invoker pickers, Spectre pickers or Miracle. I gotta say tho i'm impressed with Badman skills on spectre, he's one hell of a 1 hero pool player.
@RedRover I've had the misfortune to play with someone who had 1 mmr....... Having a teamate pick Riki stand under a T2 tower (while the T1 is still up) and flame your team when he dies gets old real quick
So many dumb people who think within 1000mmr there is any skill difference. Ive been 3500mmr and play the same at 4200mmr, its all about matchmaking. U can talk about skill difference when you look beyond 1000mmr difference...
No difference between 3500 and 4200 mmr, if u get trash cores as teammates u loose, if u get proper cores as teammates u win. Same...
Ace - I.don't.know dude, below 1k is like ppl playing with extreme lag and have no.idea.of.the game etc. I have a.friend who dropped from 1.7k to 985 mmr.
I dont think you shouldnt place this much weight into skill, asmore as I Play i see the skill is not the difference that loses you the game, ist your draft, get a good draft against your enemy and you can beat enemys with 2k mmr more then you have
^making a good decision on the pick stage is part of skill, so this argument makes very little sense
Picking well is the next level of skill, sometimes mmr is affected by it, but u need a big mmr gap tu actually see any difference.
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I 've seen players 7k and I compare my skills with them , apparently their skills more and better than me. So , I try to improve my skills and how to play better to improve my MMR