General DiscussionBest Carry Farmer Current Patch

go axe and snowball

i wouldnt class axe as a "carry" sure he can carry but not exactly what im after

lycan can farm jungle quite fast and can create alot of space very quickly for ur real carry OR for you to get fight items after u have vlads+boots.
Troll can also farm jungle good and is kinda a hard carry, also very effective for pushing with his ult.

btw have u been feeding on purpose? your last few games seem a little bit werid...

this isnt my account its my room mates idk if he plays dota much anymore its just logged in on my computer so its wat i used

go ursa level 5 rosh

^ level 4. even 3 is possible.

jugg is currently the fastest one in the woods.
He is even faster than tb pre illu nerf

keep playing furi like this i love this meta

he obviously was throwing to make LP games go faster and trying to hide it now.

@Dizi

Ursa 4 lvl = rosh

matrice, you've mentioned the build and what you skill, but I want to see how it works in a real game.
Do you have match id where you go jungle jugger?

luna is an epic farmer

Kunkka is too. Tidebringer lvl 4 + some basic dmg and AS items = EPIC FARM

I didn't made a soul ring build in a real game (even if it's a bit more effective it's so annoying to do -compare to the easy crit build- ^^)

What matrice said - Jugger.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1140639576

300lh in 30min, starting from jungle (even with bad starting items, coz I was stacking with low MMR friend & my support was last hitting in lane, so I switched to jungle). Game is in normal skill, but I'm 3.8k.

so why does jungle jugg work and why did people not figure it out earlier, or what changed to make jungling him viable?
i would have thought it's because he can clear stacks with spin, but apparently that's not the case.

Why do you skip spin completely until around level 20? I guess it's not good for the early jungling since you need mana for ward, but isn't one point good for the defensive part when you start fighting (dodge stuns, remove slows, stop X/glimpse/pounce, tp escape, etc.)?

Well if we talk about free farm, alch is fucking monster.

jug jungle is so easy a 1.9k trashlord like me can do it

Doom is pretty good. Easy to farm jungle with consistently.

@Androgynous, Just is so strong in woods right now, cause he receive 6 damage, 6/7 armor, 6 as, and his crit lvl 1 is now increasing by 20% instead of 15% his dps lvl1.

He had 45 dps lvl1 with crit last patch, right now he has 58, that's almost 30% increase damage!!!

(doom's not a carry though)

Sure he can jungle but

jugg has a very strong lane presence, he can handle off lane/safe lanes with ease
Its such a waste to jungle him.

Such a waste but yet even without the most effcient build, you can farm faster than the lane (even if you get 100% of the creep !!)