General DiscussionDear Yume,

wut ?

How does revenge feel Havoc

dat item and skill build rofl

Long story short this was the guy who claimed he was so great at DP and had like 100 games at 80% win rate and he was trash talking while feeding. His win rate and MMR were both factitious lies and this is what I refer to as pulling a Blunt Stunt.

Game 1. http://dotabuff.com/matches/793735528

I was basically blamed for AFK farming though I was roaming and well I think my last hits speak for themselves, he just went player to player passing blame for his failure and putting out that we were holding him back, and "why do I always get stuck with these players".

Guess what Yume boy, we were stuck with you.

As per my suggestion to not play mid it would seem he continues to do so and lost his mid to our TA so damn hard it was funny and his team were as pissed with him as we were in our game. http://dotabuff.com/players/38657267 His winrate over all and on his mid heroes is pretty laughable.

ta obliterates invoker tho

also that ta is bad, who buys blink, daed and manta o.0

TA beats an Invoker who doesn't understand what 'flexible' means.

ta doesnt beat invoker if invoker knows how to play his hero

wow im being lectured by not one but two 3k mmr player, start a coaching site?

wow an account selling abuser known for being a retarded troll is trying to be cool

I really think TA rolfstomps over invoker

TA >>>> invoker lol

just forge a spirit to take out her refraction charges while you outlast hit her, ez lane... no way she can kill you if you have coldsnap as well

if you go qw against a ta, you are setting yourself up for a shitty lane.

yeah wut, ta is one of 'counters' to invoker

ta will always beat invoker at last hits at mid almost all the time assuming equal skill level. If u use the forge spirits at low level it's just feed for TA and it doesn't attack fast enough to get rid of those shields

Havoc do you even know if yume reads this forum?

TA can't beat QE invoker at last hitting. Assuming invoker has 3 points of exort by level 5 and TA bought some kind of stats item (wraith band for this example), at level 5 TA will hit for ~72-74 while invoker will hit >80 with 3 exort orbs active and no stats items. Not to mention he tremendously outranges her, out CC's her, and can control runes better by sending forge spirits to deny runes without missing any exp/last hits. Oh, and if TA leaves lane to gank or heal, invoker can dish out a LOT of tower damage.

you do know refraction gives a shit ton of dmg..

Well u know if invoker adds his skill build that way he has practically little or no regen and u forgot that TA has a better last hit animation, there is no need for TA to even hit invoker she hits him through her 3rd skill.

U are thinking too much about the ideal situation according to ur build if it actually reaches the rune area since u only have at most 1 level of quas it will most probably disappear or / and u can't use ur forge spirits to last hit.

TA owns invoker by diving with refraction too, being on both sides before

What u mean TA has 72-74 damage? XDd

TA has fuckin' 400 damage at lvl 5

also outranging ta doesn't mean shit
she has refreaction to tank autoattacks, also it's better to stay close the creeps to lasthit.

I think the only way to settle this is TA vs. Invoker 1v1 mid.

:|

Lol dota plus is awesome, love reading the chat xD

Back on subject yes I hope Yume keeps going mid and picking bad picks Badger. WP.

I would take the TA challenge vs dazzle any day :X Invoker no