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General DiscussionLothars vs. Stats Slark

Lothars vs. Stats Slark in General Discussion
casual gamer

    Usually I see people going shadow blade first for the amazing pickoff power and escape with your free dust purge. However, I've recently been experimenting with going manta or yasha + skadi first. Hp pool really helps Slark's ability to stick around in large scale fights and rack up damage with his low cd nukes.

    Shadow blade core? Only viable against morons? Or should I go some intermediate build like drums-lothars.

    Oh Shit Waddup

      i normally go qb + stout +tango +2 pooled tango > PMS > OoV > PT > drums > yasha > skadi > basher > manta/SnY > abyssal.
      i prefer to be able to stand around and man fight people and stack that agi rather than having an escape mech, if you cant juke with ult and 7 sec cd pounce and purge youre doing it wrong. however SB is viable vs a bloodseeker imo but still i think theres better items. orchid also works pretty well with sb if you choose that path cause ez 1v1 pickoffs.

      King of Low Prio

        shadowblade vs teams who need late game

        stats vs teams who can actually fight well in the mid game

        the reason behind this is because shadowblade lets you snag alot more kills when people have to spit up to farm BUT if they start 5manning early that shadowblade will just be a useless item.

        Wink

          ^What he said

          If you get Shadowblade, only do it if you can get it VERY early and if you will actually manage to get a lot of kills with it

          If you don't have a 100% valid reason to go SB, go something like Boots > OoV > Treads > Drums > Yasha > Basher/Skadi/BKB/whatever

          matrice

            OoV contrary to popular believe is not needed, almost useless for laning stage, and if instead of drum yasha you go sy, you also don't need it, while saving a lot of slot in your inventory

            Vaikiss`742.

              shadowblade core vs retards and poorly coordinated teams

              if players are good and sticking as 5 with healing spells or aoe nukes/stuns u will get rekd

              but i find shadowblade more usefull than any other in the game (blink is good too but it gives no other stats)

              Fay

                sange and yasha 4100
                304 bonus health
                no invis
                no bonus attack
                16% movement speed
                32 damage
                32 attack speed

                shadow blade 3000
                no bonus health
                invis
                150 bonus attack
                20% movement speed
                22 damage
                30 atk speed

                I prefer shadow blade

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                Dire Wolf

                  Uh that's a pretty slanted review of both, you're ignoring the proc on s&y and shadowblade 20% movement is only when it's active.

                  As a side question is orchid pretty much dead on slark now?

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                  King of Low Prio

                    orchid is picked up for specific heroes (puck, storm etc) who will just ignore all your skills with their mobility.

                    matrice

                      orchid is only working if you are stomping, otherwise, hex is waaay more effective.

                      Yfay, the point of sy, is also to run both quickly in and out, which is then more flexible than sb, that can only do it once, but is ofc far superior to sy at the moment you choose to use it.

                      Thought my preference always went to sy, cause i find too valuable on slark to go in and out several time per fight, which is what sy excell at

                      Kryptnyt

                        Mask of Madness is the best slark item, get that agility faster, kill faster

                        Faded

                          the wondrous thing about SB on slark is the fact that the other team most likely can't afford to put sentries down at every single one of their obs ward locations

                          thus, allowing u to actually heal when you're walking through common ward spots

                          i pick up OoV --> Treads --> Yasha --> PBooster--> SB --> BKB --> SNY --> Skadi --> Situational: Orchid, Heart, Basher, Bfly, MKB, etc...

                          Vaikiss`742.

                            thats why ur second "item" after sb is gem

                            Faded

                              honestly... slark is a bitch if his team is willing to counter ward against you

                              matrice

                                almost never go tarasque, skady give muuuuuuuuch more tanking power than tarasque, and if it's magic that is a problem, you have bkb then.

                                you can also, but that's not extremly effective, make the brain eater build, tarasque sy skady cuirasse + bash, or how to say, go to fuck, i will eat your stats slowly but you will never kill me ^^

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                                ICE SKULL

                                  i wouldnt say orchid is useless, slark benefits from attack speed due to his essence, hex is great too but the lack of attack speed turns it down

                                  Mia

                                    Shadowblade is the worst thing you can build on any hero after vanguard ofc.

                                    I rather have 4 snipers on my team than 4 people who buy sb/vanguard

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