You know a hero is easy when even a moron like you can go 21-0 with it.
I just put more points in quas after maxing wex… for extra cold snaps and slowy slow ice wall lol
invoker pickers have autism you rely on onehero and the same combo throughout the whole game while still remaining sub 5k
wp
Rofl. Look at what i just said, typical qw invoker hater. Unless you play invoker, dont even try to tell me that its easy to play. You are obviously bad with the hero and you cant perform so you cry
easy for pros
somewhat difficult still, for those intermediate players
hard for noobs
high skill cap
= more chance majority will suck with the hero
obviously when ppl say wow it's so easy, in this case, they're just "raising the standards" while implying "they themselves, are not that good".
which means = "i'm not that good, but i'm better than a lot of people".
= "i think i'm actually good"
I have more winrate and KDA with the hero than you at a way higher level. And I'm not even good with the hero. But as I said, you don't have to be good because he is fucking easy till the very late game.
@Sam That is my point dude. Quas wex and quas exort are BOTH easy to play until level 17. What people are always saying is that quas wex is so easy compared to quas exort blah blah blah. In fact, both are easy to execute because of the invoke cooldown factor, you just cant simply use >4 spells in a single teamfight.
Because with Exort you at least gotta land some Sun Strikes and Ice Walls. But with Q-W all you gotta do is land a tornado.
Helm of the Dominator? Daedalus? Desolator?
I've never seen any of these items on Invoker expect Desolator once maybe in beyond 5k.
You're talking like the hero is superhard to play efficient, which is not true. As Sam said, the hero is pretty easy to play until lategame.
"PLAY INVOKER BEFORE U CRY ABOUT HOW EZI IT IS, IM PLAYING INVOKER MY COOL CAUSE I HAVE TO PRESS MORE KEYS THAN YOU OMG OMG"
You sound like a fckin idiot.
@SAMA rofl. look at whose the one sounding like an idiot. Do you even read through to see what I am referring or is your IQ just that irrelevant that I can't even.
Quas wex is the fucking easiest invoker out there, and it bothers me shitton to see that even first time invokers can have such a huge success with a 3 spell combo during the entire game.
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qw is easier not because of how u invoke them, but their impact.
tornado emp coldsnap, will wipe a team out of mana in many cases, set up the initiation for your team, and single out one of the enemy heroes. the mana drain guarantees an easier fight after wards and it is so easy to land after tornado, while a meteor/sunstrike are unreliable and harder to land.
therefore qw easier than qe
lol what. As an invoker player at very high mmr myself, QW is way easier to play then QE. Not only are your spells way stronger early-mid game, you are MUCH more mobile as a QW invoker, have multiple escape mechanisms, have great initation range and teamfight capability.
With QE invoker you kinda just sit mid and hope that the enemy team doesnt gank you. If they do, you die. You just hope you bring at least one of them down with you.
Maybe you should play more than 20 games on invoker before making such a thread, lol
I call myself a invoker player and I'll say... Quas Wex is really easy to play once you know all of his skills and the full potential of his heroes. Its like playing meepo without having your micro skills, or playing pudge without knowing his hooks. Quas wex is much easier because you have quas that give u full survivability in lane due to heals + wex with speed and ghost walk. I rather say quas exort is much harder because you are much slower, harder to succeed in ganks, and you need that farm (why u get midas). I like quas exort much better than quas wex and ill tend to stick to that build if the opponent doesn't have mana dependent heroes because i get to go midas :). Well when I first tried invoker,, all I went was quas wex, and I think thats why it gets abused alot,, its much easier to survive and gank. and I dare say it to quas wex haters..
IT'S JUST A GAME
WHY WOULD HEROES HAVE SO MUCH DIVERSE BUILDS THAT A PLAYER CAN CHOOSE FROM?? BECAUSE THEY ARE VERSATILE AND ARE MEANT TO BE PLAYED VERSATILE (MAYBE EXCEPT HEROES LIKE DROW...)
SO WHOEVER SAYS... WHY PLAY THIS HERO? WHY THIS BUILD? THEY ARE HYPOCRITES FOR THE REASON THAT THEY DO THE SAME TO EVERY HERO THAT THEY PLAY. SO, BY THEM MAKING THOSE EXCUSES, THEY ARE PRIORITIZING THEIR OPINIONS OVER OURS, JUST LIKE HITLER ONCE DID TO THE GERMANS + JEWISH.
split push naga siren, disrupter is really good. Just you gotta go full teamfight if u really want to beat him. Like if someone is comming full speed on you, you gotta respond the same speed hes comming or even faster so you don't get knocked back. I even saw naga ulti + disrupter combo + wd ulti. Its just that if heroes also gets bkb, invoker is useless. So... any bkb carries like sven, luna ...ect.
real question is...
y r u offended about someone calling you out on QW invoker is easier to play? who cares, are you insecure about your own skill level?...
i mean, every person as their own opinions on heros, many say that CM is easy to play but i'd say shes probably one of the hardest supports to play
anyways, u should look deeper into the actual problem cuz clearly its not about pubs flaming you about QW easier than QE
Because it is.
Now is it as easy as Furion or Lycan? No it isn't but its the heroes those newbs graduate to.
Go safelane, blindly rush a midas, and emp tornado the rest of the game
http://dotabuff.com/matches/634392436 ez
edit: just noticed all that anonymous :(
well, in fact
Quas Wex is the easiest invoker because of long disable duration.
hardest invoker to play is Exort Wex in my opinion
and on top of that side lane/jungle invoker is much harder because of lack of LV advantage I think.
easy to play doesn't mean the build isn't good.
I think people are angry because it is easy yet very powerful build and they see in every match.
I mean 9 out of 10 invokers I face is Quas Wex and you rarely see different kind of invoker now day after wex buff.
^ 6-0 Wex Exort Invoker representing ^
On Topic: Easy to land crowd control. That's what essentially makes the Quas Wex Invoker easy. Tornado is easy to land. EMP is incredibly easy to hit after the tornado. After that, just Cold Snap and you've done your job, piece of cake. Very little risk.
QW is really easy to play - you don't have to land sun strikes, you have Ghost Walk when you get in trouble(or to gank with orchid+Cold Snap), you have huge impact in teamfights with Tornado+Emp+Cold Snap(and if you do it right, you get your mana back from Emp).
But why do you care if it's easy to play? It's pretty strong and if you have fun with it - go for it.
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Literally every single people i see who don't play invoker and actually get RAPED by quas wex cries about how easy it is to play tornado into EMP blah blah blah.
Bullshit. Every good invoker player can tell you that both quas wex and quas exort have the same difficulty level. Quas exort hard? you kidding me, invoke spirits , sunstrke and cold snap. tell me anything thats hard to do about that. You dont have all the spells to use until you are level 17> where your invoke is at 5s/2s cd. When you are level 17 btw, quas wex already gives you enough points in exort to transform into the "every noob's ideal invoker"
TLDR ; Quas wex and quas exort are no diff. easy to play until lategame. And there is no diff in a late game invoker. All people who dont play invoker should STFU.