You simply won't admit that you have 2.7 games Invoker and yet suck playing him!
I can help you shut the fuck up though! Can you suck my Dog's dick?
It can really help people on this post to not see your shit talk anymore!
Talk about gameplay, Grimorum is a better player than you anytime!
I have seen around 15 replays of you Don John. Orchid and Blink every game even if not needed!
what's the point of using Orchid on a rightclicker like Sniper while he just fucks you up with autoattacks?
Hello 5k MMR! you don't even check enemy hero's inventory!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uC1eFQWa0s
I doubt you still wouldn't build a Force Staff against heroes like Clockwerk! You would just get hooked,
try to Ghost Walk, get Dust and feed him a kill! Meanwhile your 5 man stack's carry player busy farming to win
the game because he knows that you are just a burden on the team!
Talk about MMR now. Its just a 4 digit number that means NOTHING! You got matched against Arteezy because your hidden MMR went high with the 5 man stacks and you got a good solo MMR. which you are just gonna drop now, so just play more 5 man stacks you worthless piece of shit! My solo MMR is 3706 but I'm quite sure that I got better Invoker skills than the shitty 3 spell Invoker of yours.
Insult Grimorum right? you just jealous because he has always been a way better player than you are! apart from that he is also a teacher and a friendly guy!
I saw your Dotabuff showing that you have built Aghanim's Scepter over a 1000 games and you stopped building it. Your brain doesn't have the capacity of remembering all the spells, so Aghanim's Scepter is a bad item for a mentally challenged player like you.
Also please stop bullying people on Playdota forums!
I got a request. Can you add me on Steam? I always get some Popcorn and watch movies when I am bored, I would love to watch your shit Invoker and have a great laugh! My wife doesn't understand anything about Dota. but I'm sure she would understand how bad someone can play Invoker.
Rofl. This 3k MMR tard is still at it? No wonder you are 3k, as long as the player has good mechanics, whatever he buys has no relevance to the game unless the opponents are good enough. Dumb shit, quit dota pls.
You picked one game that I honestly threw and feel bad.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/958234027/builds Nobody ever ignores Quas, I skipped it entirely because I was enraged.
Again, I apologize to the team mates that had to put up with me that game.
True story, brother stole my phone. I was too enraged to play properly.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IqiYvIw.png[/IMG]
I have provided enough logical reasoning for your bad item/skill build, but here is one more.
If your team has NA, storm, Void, Legion, or heroes like that, Invoker should always consider maxing exort to assist in kills.
That is one scenario in which Invoker should adapt item/skill build accordingly.
Do not copy Don John by automatically building Orchid/Dagger and 4quas, 4wex, 5exort.
I am 33, too old, slow, and stiff to compete in MMR.
Oldest professional dota 2 player is like 28.
I am tired of repeating myself; quit harassing me Don John
Lol Im already shaking my head, you provided a dialogue with two people (other 2 were 1 way convo), and call that "proof"?
Sorry I don't see any logical reasoning, you are using your own inferior subjective reasoning and calling it logic?
Your playstyle has only brought you to a mere 5k, FACT
My playstyle has brought me to 6k MMR, that's a FACT.
If my playstyle is less effective then why can't you show me it?
For the record don't compare yourself to a professional dota player, you are not one lol, you do not go through training camps and scrims and tournaments, you are playing a pub game that probably last 40 minutes.
So are you telling me if a 4000 MMR player came up to you and said he could've been 5k but he is too old, even though he has nothing tangible to back it up, and all he did was pick apart a replay of yours, you would accept that as " logical reasoning"?
LOL that's quite a skewed reality man, get a grip already.
There is no "would've" or "could've", the fact is you NEVER did it, and you CAN'T do it.
Hell let me claim that Im a TI4 champion while I'm at it, I just didn't bother joining competitive dota!
@Grimorum, just ignore him you will never get him to agree on anyting, just wasting your time on nobody, who cares what he thinks, almost everyone in this thread agrees with you anyways. Name of this thread is top FEW invoker players. which by rating is LGD.YAO, iG.Ferrari_430, I have returned, and VG.Black^ Im sure both of you are good invokers too, but this going for 5 pages arguing on who is and was or should be better is not necessary.
All these people posting have good winrates with voker in very high skill pool. Beyond that you guys are just pissing in the wind with your arguments. Being the "best" with such a wonky hero is relative.
cook? you mean don john? and 1 v 1 dsnt mean a shit, dota 2is never 1 v 1 its 5 v 5. winning 1 v 1 dsnt mean you would win 5 v 5, and what if one of the invokers wins by ganks orgetting 5 man strong cambos.
Being ineligible to achieve something you never achieved before does not give you the right to discredit someone who has achieved it.
There is uncertainty in your statement, if we were to put this in probability in terms of achieving 6k it would be 100% for me and a significantly lower % for you. I say significantly because even now you have shown that you are afraid of competition and exposure to your flaws. You play mostly unranked games and you create smurfs and hide your games.
Have you seen an athlete who never won a championship prove himself and discredit others and gain respect at the same time by telling another champion he could've been a champ if he wasnt injured?
According to you, EG.Fear can start discrediting the TI4 champs now because he had to sit out of the tourney because of a wrist problem?
Fact is, I did it, you never did, you never could, and you probably never will.
Go ahead and rip me a new one with one of my recent replays, you got no SUBSTANCE.
I have said it a few times, you deserve your 5600 MMR.
You can do better if you just adjust your skill/item build to adapt accordingly.
Don't automatically build orchid/dagger and 4qua 4wex 5exort
It is common sense.
You don't have to follow my advice and you don't need my approval.
Quit harassing me.
Wykrhm is well known? He just shares Dota2 related stuff kind of like a blogger and is not involved in anyway to anything Valve or Dota2 related beyond having a mild interest and social activity. You're 47% win rate how, just genuinely curious?
Fair enough but also it pays to not that you do not do ranked games with Invoker whereas the other two do. Normal games are a lot easier to stomp especially as a stack and I would put some time into ranked games and solo queuing which actually helps test your metal as a player.
Havoc I don't think this guy has a clue about the astronomical difference between me and his 3kness
As of the time of posting I've shot up to 5700 MMR
Sad thing is he doesn't seem like he is trolling too
Not sure what you are talking about rage quit either, never done that in a game, if I disconnected after a death I would reconnect after if you watch the replay since I have to restart my router #commonsense
I honestly think you should perhaps be the bigger man and step out of this topic it will go nowhere and numbers and stats and videos will get pulled out but this will never end with someone going "Yeah, you are actually better that me" so it's a pointless exercise.
by the by, not all DotaExchange peeps sit in normal bracket :P
normal skill fangays stop embarrassing yourself
@Don John
You simply won't admit that you have 2.7 games Invoker and yet suck playing him!
I can help you shut the fuck up though! Can you suck my Dog's dick?
It can really help people on this post to not see your shit talk anymore!
Talk about gameplay, Grimorum is a better player than you anytime!
I have seen around 15 replays of you Don John. Orchid and Blink every game even if not needed!
what's the point of using Orchid on a rightclicker like Sniper while he just fucks you up with autoattacks?
Hello 5k MMR! you don't even check enemy hero's inventory!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uC1eFQWa0s
I doubt you still wouldn't build a Force Staff against heroes like Clockwerk! You would just get hooked,
try to Ghost Walk, get Dust and feed him a kill! Meanwhile your 5 man stack's carry player busy farming to win
the game because he knows that you are just a burden on the team!
Talk about MMR now. Its just a 4 digit number that means NOTHING! You got matched against Arteezy because your hidden MMR went high with the 5 man stacks and you got a good solo MMR. which you are just gonna drop now, so just play more 5 man stacks you worthless piece of shit! My solo MMR is 3706 but I'm quite sure that I got better Invoker skills than the shitty 3 spell Invoker of yours.
Insult Grimorum right? you just jealous because he has always been a way better player than you are! apart from that he is also a teacher and a friendly guy!
I saw your Dotabuff showing that you have built Aghanim's Scepter over a 1000 games and you stopped building it. Your brain doesn't have the capacity of remembering all the spells, so Aghanim's Scepter is a bad item for a mentally challenged player like you.
Also please stop bullying people on Playdota forums!
I got a request. Can you add me on Steam? I always get some Popcorn and watch movies when I am bored, I would love to watch your shit Invoker and have a great laugh! My wife doesn't understand anything about Dota. but I'm sure she would understand how bad someone can play Invoker.
- Suspended Animation
TL;DR
3700 SOLO MMR trash
This guy must've read the 3k vs 5k topic and realized he is actually trash tier even after playing 4000 games of dota.
When Don John gets married, he will give his wife Orchid Malevolence instead of a wedding ring.
1500 Invoker games still a better player than you are.
Oh yeah I am quite bad at the hero teach me how to be a 3k player please
@Don John: Yo fucktard, you already play like a 3k! Phase Orchid Blink! 4-4-5 skill build and 3 spell Invoker.
To the guys who want to know about best Invoker players.
Grimorum's Invoker Raging Fury: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wln8klL1nls
Cook's Invoker Invoking Invocations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Uf18y6ljM
Vurtne refresher style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDLyTp8hXoI
Vurtne refresher style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6MZQ9YUEQE
Excali Invoker revolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB19RP-gNVI
I wasted 3 hours of my life by watching Don John's Invoker replays.
Would not recommend players to watch a trash Invoker like Don John.
pls, at least he can play and win with it, i cant even win with invoker :v, everyone is pro, im a pro feeder, pece out.
thread closed.
^Best comment ever!
Rofl. This 3k MMR tard is still at it? No wonder you are 3k, as long as the player has good mechanics, whatever he buys has no relevance to the game unless the opponents are good enough. Dumb shit, quit dota pls.
Pls, im a 1k player, and i find that defensive. Thread closed, ezpz, gg. Uninstalled.
@Kappatino: Dota 2 634 hrs on record, 36 Invoker games played.
Hello Don John fanboy! Kiill yourself already!
It seems this post will never end as some Don John fanboys wanna fight more! :D
M A D B O Y S !
im pretty sure john and kappatino are the same person though....
#CONSPIRACY BOYZ
F I G H T B O Y Z
Lmao. I recommend you to bring your 5 to vs me? Or not, maybe you need 5 people against me alone, i'm fine with it too. :D
Anw.. how do you get 3k MMR btw? I can close my eyes and still win at that shitty bracket you're in.
Don John,
You picked one game that I honestly threw and feel bad.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/958234027/builds
Nobody ever ignores Quas, I skipped it entirely because I was enraged.
Again, I apologize to the team mates that had to put up with me that game.
True story, brother stole my phone. I was too enraged to play properly.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IqiYvIw.png[/IMG]
I have provided enough logical reasoning for your bad item/skill build, but here is one more.
If your team has NA, storm, Void, Legion, or heroes like that, Invoker should always consider maxing exort to assist in kills.
That is one scenario in which Invoker should adapt item/skill build accordingly.
Do not copy Don John by automatically building Orchid/Dagger and 4quas, 4wex, 5exort.
I am 33, too old, slow, and stiff to compete in MMR.
Oldest professional dota 2 player is like 28.
I am tired of repeating myself; quit harassing me Don John
Lol Im already shaking my head, you provided a dialogue with two people (other 2 were 1 way convo), and call that "proof"?
Sorry I don't see any logical reasoning, you are using your own inferior subjective reasoning and calling it logic?
Your playstyle has only brought you to a mere 5k, FACT
My playstyle has brought me to 6k MMR, that's a FACT.
If my playstyle is less effective then why can't you show me it?
For the record don't compare yourself to a professional dota player, you are not one lol, you do not go through training camps and scrims and tournaments, you are playing a pub game that probably last 40 minutes.
So are you telling me if a 4000 MMR player came up to you and said he could've been 5k but he is too old, even though he has nothing tangible to back it up, and all he did was pick apart a replay of yours, you would accept that as " logical reasoning"?
LOL that's quite a skewed reality man, get a grip already.
There is no "would've" or "could've", the fact is you NEVER did it, and you CAN'T do it.
Hell let me claim that Im a TI4 champion while I'm at it, I just didn't bother joining competitive dota!
We will never know if my MMR will beat you if I was 15 years younger.
You can still join TI4 and find out if you can do it. What is stopping you?
Now quit harassing me
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IseOrPD.png[/IMG]
@Grimorum, just ignore him you will never get him to agree on anyting, just wasting your time on nobody, who cares what he thinks, almost everyone in this thread agrees with you anyways. Name of this thread is top FEW invoker players. which by rating is LGD.YAO, iG.Ferrari_430, I have returned, and VG.Black^ Im sure both of you are good invokers too, but this going for 5 pages arguing on who is and was or should be better is not necessary.
Why this Don John so mad ? A mod need to ban him to calm him, he's really enraged.
All these people posting have good winrates with voker in very high skill pool. Beyond that you guys are just pissing in the wind with your arguments. Being the "best" with such a wonky hero is relative.
i think the fight is about " hero dedication "
y you heff to be med? is only game?
POPCORN ALERT!
cook? you mean don john? and 1 v 1 dsnt mean a shit, dota 2is never 1 v 1 its 5 v 5. winning 1 v 1 dsnt mean you would win 5 v 5, and what if one of the invokers wins by ganks orgetting 5 man strong cambos.
@Grim
Being ineligible to achieve something you never achieved before does not give you the right to discredit someone who has achieved it.
There is uncertainty in your statement, if we were to put this in probability in terms of achieving 6k it would be 100% for me and a significantly lower % for you. I say significantly because even now you have shown that you are afraid of competition and exposure to your flaws. You play mostly unranked games and you create smurfs and hide your games.
Have you seen an athlete who never won a championship prove himself and discredit others and gain respect at the same time by telling another champion he could've been a champ if he wasnt injured?
According to you, EG.Fear can start discrediting the TI4 champs now because he had to sit out of the tourney because of a wrist problem?
Fact is, I did it, you never did, you never could, and you probably never will.
Go ahead and rip me a new one with one of my recent replays, you got no SUBSTANCE.
@ Don
Prove of smurfs?
Are you stalking him?
Don John
I have said it a few times, you deserve your 5600 MMR.
You can do better if you just adjust your skill/item build to adapt accordingly.
Don't automatically build orchid/dagger and 4qua 4wex 5exort
It is common sense.
You don't have to follow my advice and you don't need my approval.
Quit harassing me.
@Kappatino, No time to waste on 5 v 5 against a trash player like you!
36 games go killl yourself already!
this thread has gone full retard
^ agree
@Suspended rofl. are you only good at typing shit because you're scared?
LOL yawns, putting up arcanas for you if you can win even 1 game. Do you have balls?
Kappatino Cappucino vs Standin.SuspendedDOTA invoker mid make lobby gogo davayi
i come here every morning when i wake up and read new comments and after that my day is great
#ggwellplayedboiz
@Kappatino ROFL GO PLAY SOME MORE GAMES THEN CHALLENGE ME YOU FUCKTARD! :D
36 Invoker games played *giggle* http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/967516031
Don John the Shitvoker 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uC1eFQWa0s
Don John the Shitvoker 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_v_lx19XGQ
Don John the Shitvoker 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAfz9PRwueQ
Yo 5k MMR trash Don John! Cast Meteor over a Blademail Clockwerk!
NICE RAGEQUIT BRAH!
#pieceofshit
Lmao, i can't tell how autistic you are of a person right now. Yeah, i'm a feeder and noob.
What's stopping you from owning me huh? :DDDDDD ROfl. Free arcanas for you, you don't want them??? :O
Is that the best you can do? Picking games that feed purposely to show what? LOL what an idiot.
Siddhani Mani? Is that you? You look so ugly you fking indian punani dog.
You dont wanna start racism? do you ? Kappatino white tard
Nope I don't need your shitty Arcanas.
Thanks! Yes I am an Indian & I am proud of it because we have people like
Wykrhm Reddy well known over the international the Dota 2 scene.
When did Dotabuff start going racist!? :D
Low Invoker games hahahahah 36 games still shit talk!
http://imgurl.us/?id=5a9b06c1-155d-6401-014c0cc9f456e60f
This just shows how bad Kappatino is...
Rofl. Typical nerdy indian dog only know how to shittalk. Yawns. No fun, i'm outta here. Good luck with your 3k MMR endeavours.
Wykrhm is well known? He just shares Dota2 related stuff kind of like a blogger and is not involved in anyway to anything Valve or Dota2 related beyond having a mild interest and social activity. You're 47% win rate how, just genuinely curious?
EDIT: NVM, you abandon a shit ton of games.
Blame my bad old ISP is the reason for those abandons!
Hardly 2% of them are ragequits.
Talking about winrate lets just ignore the overall winrate and go by
Invoker stats as the post is regarding that hero.
Don John the Shitvoker 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uC1eFQWa0s
Don John the Shitvoker 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_v_lx19XGQ
Don John the Shitvoker 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAfz9PRwueQ
Fair enough but also it pays to not that you do not do ranked games with Invoker whereas the other two do. Normal games are a lot easier to stomp especially as a stack and I would put some time into ranked games and solo queuing which actually helps test your metal as a player.
....just a thought
Havoc I don't think this guy has a clue about the astronomical difference between me and his 3kness
As of the time of posting I've shot up to 5700 MMR
Sad thing is he doesn't seem like he is trolling too
Not sure what you are talking about rage quit either, never done that in a game, if I disconnected after a death I would reconnect after if you watch the replay since I have to restart my router #commonsense
I honestly think you should perhaps be the bigger man and step out of this topic it will go nowhere and numbers and stats and videos will get pulled out but this will never end with someone going "Yeah, you are actually better that me" so it's a pointless exercise.
by the by, not all DotaExchange peeps sit in normal bracket :P