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General DiscussionGot 1 Year ban after losing streak (yesterday)

Got 1 Year ban after losing streak (yesterday) in General Discussion
Dade

    Hey guys,
    title says it all. I wanted to ask if this is normal? On the 2nd of june 2020 I even received a "lvl up" in my behavior score. But today I'm 1year banned.

    From the steam support I only received this wonderful message of reasons:
    - A consistent pattern of user reports, negative conduct, and behavior
    - Deliberate actions to artificially boost MMR of an account (acc is from 2012 and I have barely a 50% winrate)
    - Buying, selling, or trading accounts (I'm too bad to boost or sell accs)
    - Creating an unfair competitive advantage through third-party programs (really man?)
    - Manipulation of matchmaking or match outcomes (I dont even know what that means. Scripting?)

    Did they increase the lvl of bans if you are too toxic, because I'm not understanding this. I even looked into the ingame console and my behavior is listed as normal / no low prio games for a long time / low report rate (ratio to games / reports).

    Does anyone maybe have some inside :/

    Screenshots from the ban + behavior score:
    http://puu.sh/FSaOg/7d870941de.jpg (ban duration)
    http://puu.sh/FSaOs/8902bd12d9.jpg (behavior score)

    free mmr wen

      i was in low prio in short time often like every 10 games repeated few times and then i also got better core from 7k to 8k. what i did back then was very often deny items walk down middle t h at also gets taken into account and lkands u a ban real quick. so u probably did sth like that.

      free mmr wen

        chappie style xD

        free mmr wen

          quit thinking about how bla bla make new acc and keep enjoying dota just dont deny your items or go on rage spree

          Dade

            The only "fucked up" thing I did in the last games was just saying, "I dont wanna play this anymore" :/ You can see that in the last games. Just bad performance but getting a ban for that is just stupid.

            flourishing new leaf

              That's what the game has become. They let dota terrorists to continue with their shit, ruining your games and so on and they ban people that just calmly play to win.

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              Dade

                Would be insane tbh, every game that I wanted to quit, its not like only me. But playing mostly carry / pos4 (when I wanna play something else), I probably am an easy target for reports when people are mad, if I dont play like I should (higher mmr player) though I know I'm not a god player just a shitty former 4k player :d

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                free mmr wen

                  dude u must have done sth it even gives u a warning u about to get banned type shit. i got banned in 2017 so dont know whats state of the art but sth u did deffo

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                  Dade

                    Thats the intresting part. I didnt get a warning. The last thing that popped up from dota itself was behavior change from 6.8k to 7.5k, which was yesterday at 02.06.2020 at 01:25 in the morning.
                    The last low prio I played over a month ago, which was deserved. But besides that nothing happened. If there was a warning about the ban sure I wouldnt ask why it came, because I read when the first 6month bans / the infamous 20year bans on reddit.
                    So idk man xd

                    Edit: looked closer now for low prio games. Last time was over a month, for 2 wins. Before that almost 6months. So yeah its not like I'm in perma toxic mode or sometzhing like that^^

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                    kowareta

                      just keep talking to valve supports. u are not getting banned without any alert for being toxic/getting reported even if u reach <1k behavior.

                      Dade

                        Will do friend :)
                        Awnsers from valve support take some time it seems....
                        automatic awnser was ofc under a minute :x

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                        TheRedemptionArc

                          Dota 2 reports doesn't care if you haven't played for months. I see that u don't play dota 2 often. Probably in your past matches you've been reported for ex reasons. Reports counts only games. I've been banned for playing for 3 days and after that 1 week ban. After this I got lp games as well and after that I got a 6 months warning ban. Just ask them to check your ip in your dota 2 matches and prove them that theyre wrong.

                          Dade

                            As I said I would be ok with the 1year ban if there was a warning. But without a warning I'm kinda mad at them. The last punishment was 2 LP game wins thats it. But no 3day / 1 week ban stuff like you described

                            Dade

                              Steam support is working as expected :X
                              I'm working in support but to get no resonse so far ;(

                              TheRedemptionArc

                                well my steam profile was 2x stolen and they went it back all the time.. if it got stolen one more time it would get deleted so years ago was working fine. And as i said you might got some warning before that day and youve just forgotten them.

                                Dade

                                  Nah was no warning ingame nor outside via mail. from saturday - monday i spamed mostly duo que with irl friend and nothing popped up. I'm blind as fuck wiht my glasses but not that blind xd

                                  free mmr wen

                                    how the fuck did you manage to let someone steal your account babooni ?

                                    Dade

                                      Ok I looked into the notifications inside dota and noticed something.
                                      http://puu.sh/FSGgq/c3e32b618d.jpg
                                      The low prio games I should have received on 16/05/20 didnt accure aswell:
                                      https://www.dotabuff.com/players/117497948/matches?game_mode=single_draft&enhance=overview

                                      wtf is this man....

                                      rawr

                                        And another one gone, and another one gone
                                        Another one bites the dust

                                        Ame

                                          I got 1 week ban a while ago. you know what i did? I played jungle sniper as pos 5.

                                          Vertoxity

                                            Post it on Reddit.

                                            Dade

                                              I did but subreddit mods arent approving the post....
                                              24h also already from steam support. :x

                                              Dade

                                                well reddit thinks its the battle pass thing, but I dont own a battle pass so yeah fml xd

                                                free mmr wen

                                                  have u been banned from matchmaking before like a desy or a few ?

                                                  Dade

                                                    Nope this is the first time. The only thing close to a "ban" was that I'm not allowed to que because I'm placed into the low prio queue, and have to wait so I can que single draft. But specifically for MMR no.

                                                    Roof Gaming

                                                      They never ban boosted accounts I can tell you that, I caught a booster red handed one with multiple proofs but my thread calliing him out on steam forum got removed for "name calling" lol. They defend boosting and smurfing because rtz, abed,.. Litterally every well known pro and their moms has a smurf. In league they have a forum to report boosters and pros get banned for smurfing but fat ass Gayben endorse it in Dota

                                                      free mmr wen

                                                        yeah and its good because smurfing is a very vital thing only the very noobs complain about it. also this is not the right thread for your post has literally nothing to do with our topic. so dade bro did u get an answer from the support i guess not ? just go create new account i doubt theyll take back your ban. they probably sent u some prewritten answer that everyone gets with your kind of request and then block u from steam support.

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                                                        Dade

                                                          Got no awnser so far. Added some stuff from reddit aswell some guy told me to add. Will wait till next week (friday). If there is not a normal awnser I just stop playing dota. I'm not into this 2 accs bullshit. If valve is so bad at handling their punishment system so be it :x

                                                          Dade

                                                            Also @A$D, they didnt block me in steam support.You would get a message "Your account has been blocked from participating in the Steam Community."
                                                            Which isnt the case. They are just lazy to awnser / dont want to look into this deeply, because of so many requests.

                                                            free mmr wen

                                                              why not make a new account the only thing that would keep me back is that i have stuff that cant be transferred to other accounts like my shaker arcana etc. if all your stuff is transferable id go for it

                                                              Dade

                                                                Because I dont wanna use a 2nd one. If they want me to be banned fuck the game. its that easy.
                                                                There are other games to have fun with (wasting my time xd)

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                                                                free mmr wen

                                                                  then fuck off play tetris

                                                                  Dade

                                                                    LoL I just played 4 games in unranked with IRL friends to fuck around with. This happened:

                                                                    http://puu.sh/FTs1R/eb024329b2.jpg

                                                                    Ban changed to 2 low prio games. I legit wanna laugh at steam right now for being this funny

                                                                    kowareta

                                                                      its not changed u idiot, if u queue ranked after lp games, the ban shows up again. iits only ranked ban

                                                                      Oldman

                                                                        The biggest problem here is that OP presents himself as if he didint do anything wrong. My question is - how you manage to play core every game? I run out of tokens pretty fast playing core. So there is a suport game every 5 games and you dont have that. In non-role matchmaking people are usually reported by things like first picking carry without rolling and then sucking with it. You probably got so many reports in a short period of time, thats why you are banned.

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                                                                        Dade

                                                                          When I play the support game I mostly enjoy it. Im focused on 1/5. Dont like the other roles.
                                                                          And when I have a long streak of only core games (as pos1) its mostly because of duo queue. Friend is offlane/support player. I just pick carry/hard support he takes everthing else. Nothing special here with what you assumed^^

                                                                          Edit: thats my friend https://www.dotabuff.com/players/83131628
                                                                          Im doing the duo games most with

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                                                                          free mmr wen

                                                                            so u are still banned for a year but u can only do normal games. gr8

                                                                            Dade

                                                                              As I said bro, I'll wait for friday for an awnser from steam support. If there is none, well seems like dota is a no go for 1 year. Its not the end of the world.

                                                                              Pos 1 ONLY

                                                                                My behavior score is 2.5k because of my shty internet but lucky I am that I'm not receiving like this

                                                                                Dade

                                                                                  Now they told me this:
                                                                                  I see that your account has been moved to the Low Priority matchmaking pool due to several game abandons. You will need to win the required number of games, along with waiting for the cooldown to expire in order to move out of Low Priority - Steam Support does not adjust this requirement.

                                                                                  A Low-Priority penalty is only applied when a pattern of abandoning is established over multiple matches. The in-game Conduct Summary shows the number of matches that you abandoned. This number includes matches that were left prior to completion, as well as ones where your account was detected as AFK during the match.

                                                                                  More information on Low Priority can be found at this page:
                                                                                  https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9585-EOSN-3800

                                                                                  If you feel that you encountered a bug with this feature, I encourage you to search for the issue and post about it in one of the more active Dota community hubs, as other users may be experiencing the same thing. The Dota team reads these various social channels as it helps them understand and prioritize what issues are most important to the community.

                                                                                  I dont know if they dont wanna talk about it, or cant. this is insane xd
                                                                                  Also ye the reason why I hit low prio. A duo queue that hit me and my 2 friends while we played some unranked to learn some new heroes (I fucking suck at morph so I tried him out), reported us, and when we queued again they wanted to do it again, because "we sucked dick so you deserve the report" :)

                                                                                  Oldman

                                                                                    So the problem seems to be that you played in a party and sucked at performance, which resulted in being reported by multiple stacks in a short period of time.

                                                                                    If you play duo then you enojoy 3 reports after one game if team feels they could win the game if someone else would play carry. I dont know the numbers but you must have been reported a TON of times to get 1 year ban.

                                                                                    "Also ye the reason why I hit low prio. A duo queue that hit me and my 2 friends while we played some unranked to learn some new heroes (I fucking suck at morph so I tried him out), reported us, and when we queued again they wanted to do it again, because "we sucked dick so you deserve the report" :)"

                                                                                    I dont understand anything from this. You can report someone once, so I dont think this 2 games had any significant impact on your 1 year ban.

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                                                                                    Dade

                                                                                      @Lex, the duo / tripple stack games were since the ban. Prior to that, sorry I have to say it, my friends played only league for the past 4-5 months. Maybe some games inbetween with 1 friend (mysticuzz) but thats it. I just started to play again with them, because league is just so bad for them now, they couldnt handle it anymore.
                                                                                      Also its just idk I think the "i suck at morph so i tried him out" game wasnt that bad: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5457604937
                                                                                      With "I suck with it" idk how I should tell you man. I panic with ult, cant manage the mana, and agi / str shifting isnt a mircle performance but sometimes I just suck so much at it its hilarious xd

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                                                                                      Oldman

                                                                                        You didint get a ban for free. So let us understand why you got it.

                                                                                        Dade

                                                                                          I wish to understand why aswell ^^
                                                                                          I looked into my game history of 1 year.
                                                                                          Found "only" 1 abandon, 2 that were "match discarded because a player left".
                                                                                          Boosting / Acc selling nah, too bad for that.
                                                                                          Battle Pass abuse, cant be it. I dont have one, and for the last one (ti9) I bought only levels.

                                                                                          So I dont really know what else could there be.

                                                                                          Tyski

                                                                                            I also got banned on my main account due to a losing streak. I don't write in chat or use the microphone, 0 communication reports just a bunch of disruptive gameplay reports.

                                                                                            I had two low priority games followed by three games of which i lost 2, and was banned for 4 days. Behaviour score is now 7800.
                                                                                            If I was banned for a longer period, i would probably submit a ticket for further investigation and play on another account.

                                                                                            Hatrið mun sigra

                                                                                              OP if you got banned for that then I should be in jail. I used to get abandons over abandons, even 9 consecutive ones for how bad my rig and internet were, with literally 1 behavior score and plenty of reports, plus trashtalking. For years. Yet in the last 2 weeks bhs went from 3k to 9.5k despite me flaming retards in some games. None of those you listed sound like good reasons to ban someone. Imo only constant intentional ruiners and cheaters deserve a huge ass ban. This story is too strange.

                                                                                              Dade

                                                                                                LOL you 2 are great xD
                                                                                                @Tyski, Idk how to get a better investigation going from steam's side. It feels like they dont give a shit tbh. They probably think every banned acc -> fuck them just give them a normal awnser
                                                                                                @SLQ, oof thats rough. I even went back to almost 2018. Last abandoned was a "match didnt score because of a player leaving" on september. january 2019 until now only 1 abandon. But the strange thing is as steam mentioned. You can get banned for being too many time afk in games. Which is not possible since idk? when did they buff the foundtain for true strike + more dmg + faster hits? maybe 4-6 months? xd
                                                                                                How is someone able to go afk if games are 100% over. Foundtain dive is way too easy right now.

                                                                                                Oldman

                                                                                                  What? So you just afked under fountain and got abandons? I dont understand what you are trying to say.

                                                                                                  Dade

                                                                                                    Ok i try it again ok bro^^
                                                                                                    People foundtain farm ME = not afk;
                                                                                                    If I try to get out of foundtain, either with TP / spells = enemy hunts me just to kill me even though ancient is exposed = KD/A is everything
                                                                                                    So I'm mostly dead. Happens for like 6-8 months now^^

                                                                                                    Oldman

                                                                                                      Your thread is like „I didint do anything and I got 1 year ban.” I just dont buy this story.