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Die by the sword

    This is the data and a continual pattern for me... absolutely low impact but wining games.. i have 7 in a row with treebeard,,

    https://stratz.com/en-us/match/5022112427/overview

    MuLLi

      Nice! Well done

      MuLLi

        Seems like u are upswing with good luck or u just do things in right timing =D

        MuLLi

          If I buy Hand of midas for tree it usually guarantee 4 to 9 reports

          Die by the sword

            I recommend buying rod of atos after midas..

            MuLLi

              Ok. So more root.

              Maybe I watch some of your phenomenal Treant games tonight. U might have found some meta which I have not saw before

              Die by the sword

                It's special.. its all about the trees,

                MuLLi

                  ^Yep but how Rod and Hand is good for all about trees guy?

                  edit. as u see my profile I have some games as Tree guy

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                  Die by the sword

                    If your team is doing rosh as upper team and enemy team that always come from ancient cliff type place.. then you hide with tree by cliff and when enemy pa tries to blink in - you use atos first.. then ulti.. then maby u go in and die..

                    Hopefully your team dont die and maby get roshan?

                    MuLLi

                      So u get PA to use BKB by úsing atos first?

                      Next level of play =D

                      Die by the sword

                        I'm much better then you... Take my advice for granted :)

                        MuLLi

                          Yes ofc u are!

                          I truly believe u might be right about rod. I have to try it games where enemies like PA

                          Die by the sword

                            It works on other heroes as well but.... Welll.... its a very situational item, works on old treebeard somehow..

                            Die by the sword

                              Treant Protector

                              5015 score
                              99 percentile
                              ~30000 - approx rank

                              respect my athoritaaa

                              According to strats impact meter i am average player...

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                              MuLLi

                                Well done

                                Die by the sword
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                                  Die by the sword

                                    A ranked victory with treant
                                    Very high skill
                                    0-15-28 statz
                                    and nasty feeder negatives :D
                                    https://stratz.com/en-us/match/5028619937?player=1151432
                                    Also classed as most useless player in game... Look at it.. its horrible :D

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                                    MuLLi

                                      ^Seems like if I would play Treant in VHS I would win 99% of games if u won by this performance

                                      Die by the sword

                                        Well it's easy to win in a bot game.. Real players are much more difficult
                                        Especially at ancient 2 but i got 3622 support mmr. but ey.. Very high skill is as good as it gets on this page..

                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5026006367

                                        It only comes to show that I can die 15 times and still win...
                                        It infuriates my teammates in ranked but I actually enjoy it...

                                        Die by the sword

                                          Check my newest ranked trebeard game!

                                          4 ranked wins in a row... and now treebeard is my best hero according to ingame dota stast..

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                                          MuLLi

                                            yes u have wins while your impact is negative u must have good luck or u just play IQ 200 style =D

                                            matrice

                                              Stratz is terrabad at examining everything that is macro related.
                                              I've plenty of solo win as tb, ratting, wave cutting and so on, gaining all the time of the world for my team to comeback from the 3 lanes we heavily lost, just to see a ~22 score rating by stratz.

                                              If you are not constantly fighting / heavy crush your lane and snowball on building push, you'll never get good ratting from stratz

                                              Die by the sword

                                                HMMM and here I thought i was actually a great player who fooled the system :(.

                                                Besides.. its not like dota is any real fun anyways :(((((((((((((((((((

                                                MuLLi

                                                  Dota is for masochists =D

                                                  Murranji

                                                    Stratz was good when they gave you the break down of the game bracket - ancient, divine etc. much better than “very high skill”. Now they don’t any more it’s not so useful.

                                                    matrice

                                                      I managed to break stratz with my p4 ursa yesterday:
                                                      https://stratz.com/en-us/match/5032392071?player=49382246

                                                      Literally cann't calculate. 0 from the start to the end :)

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                                                      Die by the sword

                                                        Damn rat

                                                        MuLLi

                                                          So u guys are saying Stratz is total BS site to measure how good u are

                                                          matrice

                                                            no, it's not total bullshit.
                                                            If you don't try to outmanoeuvre your enemy, then it's fine.

                                                            It just suck at judging how good macro actions are. But, anyone <5k mmr is probably dog shit at it/don't even try to do macro actions.
                                                            As most people from 6k to 7k are really bad at playing macro game in first place.

                                                            So, as long as you have straight forward / "simple" gameplay, stratz will assess your impact quite decently (or at least decently in comparison to other player of that very game).
                                                            But if in your whole game, "all" you did was cut wave, delay push, make enemy tp away from their push to defend other lane, or all other similar macro thing, then stratz will have a really hard time detecting what was your impact.

                                                            Die by the sword

                                                              I had an Immortal in my last game.. 426 or something.. HONestly??
                                                              They've reset the rankings to, so i dont know what my level is anymore compared to the average of the game..

                                                              This game is an excellent descript of what were talking about!
                                                              https://stratz.com/en-us/match/5028619937?player=1151432

                                                              MuLLi

                                                                Stratz IMP is calculated by first 90% of the game so late game comeback won't be seen on impact score.

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                                                                MuLLi

                                                                  Here comes my shit =D


                                                                  gone some 200 points down lately on Tree score

                                                                  MuLLi

                                                                    The real monkey king! 4 days ago
                                                                    Well it's easy to win in a bot game.. Real players are much more difficult
                                                                    Especially at ancient 2 but i got 3622 support mmr. but ey.. Very high skill is as good as it gets on this page..

                                                                    So question lies could I manage to win games at 3622 mmr and above with my Tree or are these stats of stratz/opendota just total BS

                                                                    Die by the sword

                                                                      https://stratz.com/en-us/player/1151432/heroes?hero=treant-protector

                                                                      These are my stats...
                                                                      My concern is that my average match rank is ancient 3 but my impact is 91 on average but thats because Stratz stats are based on pure economic and experience gain which I dont get that much of.

                                                                      Open dota stats
                                                                      5311 points
                                                                      99.3 percentile
                                                                      ~20000 rank

                                                                      I suggest you stop playing like a buffoon and start being credible. Could be that my average game play rank is higher and the better players pushes my decisions a notch above yours... Game sense..
                                                                      If you compare our average ingame stats I have less kills then you, more deaths but plenty more assists. I think thats because im more intune with the support role and focus on making my team better rather then building myself..

                                                                      I see you are more core as well.

                                                                      Maybe I'm just a better player :P

                                                                      MuLLi

                                                                        Yes u must be better. There we get to IMP score of stratz seems BS

                                                                        MuLLi

                                                                          ^Why Stratz say I'm core more than support usually come because I'm the Buffon (goal keeper) who need to defend all 3 lanes while my team tend to roam all over map doing nothing. So I end up building my self by defending

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                                                                          Die by the sword

                                                                            When game doesnt go the way I want I usually stop caring and start healing towers instead... Played a ranked legend 4 game today :(

                                                                            EDIT

                                                                            https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=282801741 This is real DOta skillz it says im pro no matter what... condition.. you must be support

                                                                            EDIT

                                                                            Best treant tip!
                                                                            Now here is a funny fellow. The highest base damage in the game combined with one of the best protective spells makes a great supporter. Unfortunately, he is pretty slow, mêlée and Living Armor is essentially weak in tri-lanes. Picking him gives you a high chance to win the 1v1 lanes, but only if you pay constant attention to what is happening there. Note that he has THE highest base damage on lvl 1. If you happen to find a haste rune with him, just go skill leech seed and kill the enemy mid hero. There is no escape from a hasted treant on lvl 1!

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                                                                            MuLLi

                                                                              Doesn't runes spawn @2 min

                                                                              Die by the sword

                                                                                I musnt deem people of insignificant worth duty.. But I have a confession to make... Ring of basilius is best item for tree not glove of gold or atos or grasp..

                                                                                MuLLi

                                                                                  The real monkey king! 11 minutes ago
                                                                                  I musnt deem people of insignificant worth duty..

                                                                                  What this means?

                                                                                  Die by the sword

                                                                                    Damn Runes Why are you always one the wrong side!

                                                                                    MuLLi

                                                                                      WP u seem to have good time with Tree

                                                                                      Die by the sword

                                                                                        Very well played but no hand of Midas... My game was definitely better.

                                                                                        https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/5034376542

                                                                                        MuLLi

                                                                                          Yeah ofc Hand is such an improvement for tree =D

                                                                                          Tree have no hands at all u know

                                                                                          Die by the sword

                                                                                            I bet the gloves fits on his limbs :)

                                                                                            MuLLi

                                                                                              Glove your self... Seem to work for u

                                                                                              MuLLi

                                                                                                As I said buying gloves will get me 4-9 reports if we lose and 1-2 if we win

                                                                                                Die by the sword

                                                                                                  If i ever used lube i would have a plastic glove