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cartel

    hello gamers
    I'm 2 heropool gamer ( lion and warcock)
    I rarely pick warlock anymore unless my carry is a spectre or am so i guarantee a won lane
    my problem is when i pick lion and my carry is one of these
    drow / void / Tb / other farm heavy heroes that don't want to do anything except hit creeps
    I just feel my pick is absolutely useless with them...especially with void
    what I'm asking is what do they want from me? do i just stack pull to give them levels? do i gank mid?
    another question is how do i deal with these offlaners
    nature's prophet/enigma/beastmaster i tried this thing where i should always be hitting something in lane either a hero or a summon... but after like level 5 or even 4 i make one wrong step and i get clapped by twenty units
    riki/ treant retards show to lane with 20 sentries and a qb and they just ruin my life do i just get dust and kill them? what if my carry is weak?
    doom/timber/pango i legit have no idea what to do past level 3 against these guys....tried getting 2 levels in mana drain but they just get mass mangoes and soulring.... tried maxing q and w but they are for some reason unkillable
    mars REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
    also
    i am pepega levels of aggressiveness with wards... idc about if it blocks their camps and if they find out about the ward....i just drop deep wards as much as possible
    this has resulted in the enemy supports now sentry the whole enemy jungle...at first it looks like its ok but the problem is when i have a clinkz or a nyx or a riki on my team i just make them super weak....
    and when there's enemy slark warding just becomes incredibly hard
    also i heard gorgc once say something about fighting around the rosh pit if you have an ursa in your team and fighting away from it if the ursa is on enemy team....any idea if there's any similar hero that i should look out for
    and about warding rosh do i ward our cliff or enemy cliff or enemy shrine or enemy closest tower..
    and when playing from behind do i ward the obvious two spots in our jungle or do i ward jungle entrance
    ty for reading and thanks in advance if u reply
    also where is marko bulat i miss him

    kowareta

      hi sir
      i think u already said the answers urself
      u are not suppose to win every lane, and winning lane is not like killing offlaner every time he shows up, i mean u cant do shit about darkseer unless somebody else ganking the lane! as long as ur carry farming safe u are cool.

      against beastmaster, if he is solo u must bully him on lvl 1 till he backing off to the tower and losing the xp

      .tried getting 2 levels in mana drain but they just get mass mangoes and soulring.

      i dont understand logic in here. u are forcing them spend money on bullshits, how's that bad?

      about sentries, u can eat them with tango so if the enemy having qb u have tango.

      and about warding rosh do i ward our cliff or enemy cliff or enemy shrine or enemy closest tower..

      if ur team is stronger u are manning up and warding enemy side of map,

      Jacked

        Mars gets soul ring anyways. Get their mana drained constantly. Then go pull if you have no kill potential. Just go where there’s potential. I think it’s more worth it to have your mid gank side lanes.

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        cartel

          add tiny and puck to the list of offlaners that hurt my feelings

          Jacked

            Can’t you just zone tony tho ?

            cartel

              no i meant 4 tony

              kowareta

                tbh, spamming heroes is not good enough, matchup is more important
                i played spectre and lifestealer with zero practice and it worked cause that was a good game for these heroes, i just checked the item timings and skill builds on dotabuff in strategy time, lol
                didnt expect to win but it worked!

                Araoki

                  I have one hero pool

                  twitch.tv/afeect

                    how about u play more than 2

                    cartel

                      I guess I can learn another one ...
                      what do u recommend against these heroes?
                      or
                      recommend a support hero that's really hard but free mmr once u learn it...

                      kowareta

                        AA
                        its not hard btw
                        maybe oracle :S

                        Jacked

                          Oracle disruotor shaman

                          shady_stuff

                            shaman
                            he can solo carry games super hard
                            has everything u want. disable lane shove heavy push and strong laning

                            cartel

                              oracle it is then
                              time to develop more than two brain cells